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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Mignon]
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09/09/11 06:42 PM
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A muslim president would bother me big time. Our country is based on one nation under God not allah. I wouldn't vote for a atheiest either. But that's just me. Really? A Muslim would bother you? Specifically because they believe in Allah? Or an atheist because they don't believe in any god?? As DT pointed out, there is no nation under God. The original pledge did not have the word God. It was one nation, indivisible. The founding fathers made sure that there was separation of church and state. They came here seeking religious freedom because they had been oppressed. Who are we to point fingers at whose religion is acceptable? Just as JFK's Catholicism or Romney's Mormonism shouldn't be an issue. The only issue is extremism, when a person's beliefs cloud there ability to think. That bothers me. Not much else about a person's religious beliefs do.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Mignon]
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09/13/11 01:40 PM
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A muslim president would bother me big time. Our country is based on one nation under God not allah. I wouldn't vote for a atheiest either. But that's just me. What about a Buddhist or a Hindu? I think Mig is probably speaking for the majority of the country in saying she would not vote for a Muslim for president. Watching the 9/11 rembrances Sunday it amazed me that the name of the man who succeeded George Bush is Barack Hussein Obama. He is not a muslim, but it is a muslim name, so thats saying something. I have no doubt Bush was a true believer in Christianity, but I am not so sure about presidents like Reagan and Obama, who pay lip service to it almost because they have to. Reagan almost never went to church on sunday and neither does Obama.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: dontomasso]
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09/13/11 01:46 PM
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Reagan almost never went to church on sunday ... That's because Reagan thought he was God.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: SC]
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09/13/11 03:22 PM
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Reagan almost never went to church on sunday ... That's because Reagan thought he was God. You'd think it was the other way around the way they deify him these days.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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09/13/11 03:39 PM
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Yeah, I think Don T meant to say Arabic name.
From Wikipedia:
Hussein is an Arabic name which is the diminutive of Hassan, meaning "good", "handsome" or "beautiful". It is commonly given as a male given name, particularly among Shias, in honor of Hussein ibn Ali. In some Persian sources the forms osayn, Hosayn, or Hossein is used.On the Subcontinent or South Asia, the form used is "Hussain" or "Hossain" in the Bengal region.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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09/14/11 11:30 AM
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In what could be a harbinger of next year's election, Republicans won House special electons in New York and Nevada. The New York victory was surprising since it took place in a heavily Democratic district. It certainly didn't help the Democrats that the reason for the New York election was an erection.... Anthony Weiner.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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09/14/11 01:13 PM
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I doubt the redistricting has anything to do with it. Queens is probably the biggest "melting pot" of ethnicities in the entire country, and it's residents, as a whole, are overwhelmingly Democrats. A Democrat shouldn't have lost in ANY Queens district, let alone Forest Hills.
My job took me to that area constantly. I was a union rep for the funeral directors at a chapel on Queens Boulevard, just off Union Turnpike. I know the area and the people well, and I'm absolutely SHOCKED about this. I didn't even put stock in any of the polls that had Weprin trailing. I thought it was a lot of hot air. But I was wrong.
I'm not sure if this is a harbinger for Obama, but it's definitely a warning, at the very least.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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09/14/11 01:36 PM
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I understand that, Oli. And I really do appreciate the way you take the time to put things in layman's terms for those of us who aren't as well acquainted with Federal Law as you are. And I mean that  . But unless they just redistricted the Borough of Queens to include Texas, there's just no way a Republican should have won that seat.
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