Originally posted by Zahleweh:
Anton ... if you choose not to believe in Jesus Christ or the Church that is ok with me... but by respect for other believers such as me ... don't question our faith... religion is a thing that i don't like to discust ...
Zahleweh...I'm not questioning your faith...I'm simply questioning, full-stop. I certainly don't put people down for religion.
Originally posted by Saladbar:
I value Jesus, Muhammed, Buddha, Confusious and any admirable prophet because every one of them had a true message for people to follow and believe. I admire the core of their ideas, but not many of the actions of their subsequent churches or legions of fanatics.
Absolutely Saladbar...I value them too. I asked if Jesus has really helped us as much as he may have wished...if others have instead done better for the physical world.
Originally posted by Guineapig:
WWII happened, as a continuation of WWI because of the treaty of Versailles and all the people England and France fucked over with it. Jesus had nothing to do with it. He is dead. He no longer exists; as a human.
Your practically asking..:
"Science, and phylosophy aside: what did Einstein do for the world?"
You miss my point, GP. I'm not talking about how Jesus helped in these events...I'm talking about how others have helped more to the physical (and from an atheists point of view, mental and emotional) world.
Originally posted by jolitinjoe05:
I don't think it was God's plan for his son to break the Roman empire, or invent the telephone.
You're right there, Joe...but it is not what I'm asking. Has everyone missed what I'm saying??
Originally posted by J Geoff:
P.S. You used "rumination" 5 times in your post. Here's a thesaurus.
Oh well, Uzi pointed it out nicely..."r*minations" is no longer a word in my vocabulary!
-Penguin
