but in the documentary it did explain this about rosenberg about all he had to do to be made. The mob cares most about profit.

With all due respect it doesn't matter what some narrator on a documentary said. 100+ years of mafia tradition> one narrators opinion.

It is also common knowledge that Rosenberg dreamed about getting made but everyone knew he was a Jew. Perhaps had no one known him and then he changed his name to Demeo he might have had a chance but everyone including big Paul knew he was of Jewish ancestry and as Ivy said Demeo himself barely got made because big Paul had a rather low opinion of the Demeo crew.

Yeah Demeo and that crew were in the sales of narcotics which Paul didn't like, Paul didn't like drugs. If I can find the documentary it was really good more detailed actually, but your right Paul knew what he was and so did everyone else, and Paul wasn't going to let that happen he was a strict man. Maybe if it was someone like John Stanfa he might agree to this about Rosenberg being made, and the rest of the steps of what I said. Greed gets them all and that's how they go down.

Unless I'm mistaken, Rosenberg didn't have an ounce of Italian blood. There is not a single case - not one - where somebody has been made without at least being partially Italian. There was no way he would have been made by Castellano, Stanfa, or anybody.

Rosenberg would never have been made. God knows he convinced enough people that he could be, but it was never going to happen. His history was too well known.

We can all accept this is not an exact science, and even though alot of these documentaries are entertaining, there's alot of flase and innaccurate information in some of them. Some are better then others, but to take it all at face value would be a disservice to the research.

Out of all the Godfathers I would think Rosenburg would have had the best chance of being made by Stanfa forsure. With him being Sicilian you would think he would have been more old school but he bent more rules than anyone when it came to blood lines.

I dont know. Stanfa made some guys that would have never been made anywhere else, but they were all at least part Italian. Rosenburg was Jewish, through and through.

And besides his drug-trafficking and autho thefts, he didnt have all that much acumen.

Curious... would I have made it??

Grandpa was Calabrese
Grandma was Siciliana

Both on my dad's side.

Yeah, right? But oh, I was adopted and don't know WTF I am really. Does blood really matter that much, or does family line rule?

No. Bloodline and family roots aside, a real don doesn't wear shorts.

Still, J Geoff had more of a chance then Rosenberg ever did. Donnie Brasco claimed to have been adopted, and it didn't seem to matter with those guys.

If you had happened to be of "that persuasion" (read: homicidal douche), I reckon you would have been "Italian enough" to make the grade J Geoff!

Hey, Ron Previte was an ex-cop and God knows what origins the name Previte is derived from.

Im pretty sure Previte is Sicilian.

You're sexually confused .

Previte and Previti are well common North Eastern Sicilian (Messina) lastnames.

Ron Previte is a 2nd-generation Italian-American on both sides of his family. His parents' folks moved to the Southern NJ\South Eastern PA areas.

The crazy thing about him getting made is that he was an ex-cop. Jeez, Stanfa was supposed to be an old-school Zip...

What about Martines? Was his lastname mispelled form the Italian "Martinis" (with an I) or was he of Spanish descent?

martines is a surname of spanish descent present in south italy

ray liotta could have probably been made but he himself is not italian but is adopted by italian parents and has an italian surname.

I usually check this website when checking if a name is Italian.

http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo-v...11#.UnjmGHC-2So

But sometimes some names don't show up. Was Thomas “Pee Wee” DePhillips Italian? Also Gerry DeNono from Chicago and John DeRoss. There was a couple others too but I can't think off the top of my head.

Is the website above accurate?


Thanks.

Not all Italian names end in a vowel...some of the ones we see here in the states have been Americanized but even in Italy you see some without vowels at the end....hell, if I just go by Italian goalkeepers you have Zoff, Desanctis and Buffon lol.

I believe Anthony Senter had a relative with the surname Vulpis. Both Italians.

I can think of - using Italian footballers as an example - a few more with surnames not ending in vowels: Cois, Pasqual, Maran, De Laurentiis, Guidolin, Pellissier.....

It is also worth noting that in an effort to assimilate, people from certain countries, like neighbouring Slovenia, will Italianise their surnames. An example would be the forebears of the great Italian footballer, Paolo Maldini. His surname was originally "Maldic".

It is also worth noting that there are huge cultural differences between the North and South of the country and different characteristics in different regions.

There are areas of Italy where it is not uncommon to find people with red hair. There are several footballers with flame roots, including Davide Biondini and Alessandro Gazzi.

Meanwhile, The great Francesco Totti, one of my favourites, has the Roman nose but pale skin and brown hair.

Also Gianluigi Buffon. Speaking of footballers, my Fabio Cannavaro is still THE hottest man on the planet.

Could a person from Argentina or South America be made in the mob. Argentine people mostly have Italian last names and other south American countries?

I showed that map/name location search to Italian friends and they put their last names in and they said it was very inaccurate. Also names that end in vowels are not always Italian as they can be Spanish, or from Latin America.

It's largely a myth that in order to be "made" or join la famiglia you must be fully Italian on both sides of your family. Sometimes people get in because of Italian heritage from a certain region passed on from generations ago as they're born into it and they do not have an Italian last name.

They said that Pistone is a Sicilian last name and that's Donnie Brasco's actual name, and apparently he was not adopted.



Possibly they could join IOC factions in those countries if they were foolish enough to want to do this and had a death wish.

According to Tommy Pitaro, the only way to prove it is that he "Has to know the [BadWord] you came out of", which as we all know isn't foolproof either.
I agree with the others above that there is no way in hell Chris Rosenburg could have been made- it was just a wild dream and whoever did that "Documentary" just didn't do enough research.
Physical appearance isn't reliable either. Most people think of an Italian as having black hair, olive skin and brown eyes. I have a nephew with blue eyes and blond hair and he is 100% Sicilian.

I think most of these guys know each other, they're from the same neighbourhoods and when they decide to induct someone into the organization they know whether or not he's Italian.

Frank D'Amato made a few guys that weren't Italian but they had to give him a few blowjobs.

Was he bisexual? This sounds odd but I know some gay men who would find the idea of that to be something they would like.

there a guy around were I live that its pretty common knowledge hes adopted and hes a made guy guess it don't matter as long as you have a Italian last name to join the mob. the guy is nuts and stabs and shoots, he wont be out anytime soon anyway,

You're Irish. Right, pmac?

Just asking because I'm curious about how the Irish and Italians get along in Boston today, Down here I think we've come to the realization that we're better off with each other than with some of the newer immigrants (I mean as far as the street is concerned, I'm not being racial or anything like that ).

If this supposed guy is that open and violent he's probably not 'made', or in la famiglia, and it's just a rumour he spread about himself, or other people did for him since he's just a street thug that is violent.

will all be rooting for the bruins tonite. the bloodlines around here are so mixed. salemmi was the first half Irish boss. my friends are all mutts. my mother calls my sister in law a mutt cause she got a little native american in here a lilbit but my grandparents on here side are off the boat potatoes died before I knew them very catholic there. but I think they got strict again ya rite as long as the money you kick up is green. the guy was violent but most mob guys are plus this is shit he did almost 20 yrsag QN really ain't my biz. I see him on lists people make I don't know. salemmi would make anyone kicking up or shooting for him.