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Re: Boardwalk Empire
[Re: Lilo]
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12/04/11 11:06 PM
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There's so much attention placed on Dharmody's strange relationship with his mom (kissing on the lips, clingy). Something big is going to happen there.
I called it!!!  Oedipus Rex indeed. But that was obvious. EDIT: It makes sense when you consider the circumstances of Jimmy's conception. No boundaries.
Last edited by Lilo; 12/04/11 11:08 PM.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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12/04/11 11:08 PM
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I called it!!! Oedipus Rex indeed. But that was obvious. I got dibs on the heroin "story".
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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12/04/11 11:18 PM
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I called it!!! Oedipus Rex indeed. But that was obvious. I got dibs on the heroin "story".  Yup. Disgusting yes. But it makes sense in context of story. His mother was raped when she was what 12, 13? Often times people who are abused act that out with others. And Gillian is nothing if not manipulative, maybe not even consciously so.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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12/04/11 11:37 PM
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Hey TIS! She was constantly half-dressed in front of him. She was always "doing the do" with men in Jimmy's circle of associates. They kissed on the lips. People always mistook her for a sister/gf. She touched him possessively, the way a wife would touch a husband. So I knew something was up-I just thought it would have been in the future and not the past but either way I guess. On the other big story I was a little happy to see Nucky finally get a little irritated with Margaret. He's looking at trial and possibly a long sentence or electric chair. His first thought -besides not going to jail-is to provide for Margaret and her children-and all she can think about is how bad s/he is? Seems self-centered. Even watching him make a not so veiled threat to her, all I could wonder is how do people who still sleep in the same room go to bed that angry at each other. Seems...risky. 
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
[Re: Lilo]
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12/04/11 11:56 PM
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Lilo, I must have been half watching or watching with one eye open. I guess I never thought in those terms.  I agree with Oli here, Vinnie & Mary aren't so bad after all.  (good one Oli). Yes, Margaret does seem to be selfish doesn't she. Oh, and since Nucky now knows that Van Alden drowned that one detective, I'm sure he can use it against him. TIS
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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12/05/11 08:07 AM
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I was a little surprised by Van Alden's "run for the border" move. BugEyes bugged out. He did at that... ha-ha Cue wah-wah 16th notes.. Rothstein: "Tell me about Jimmy." Luciano: "They say this cat Jimmy is a bad muthaf-" Nucky: "Shut your mouth!!!" Luciano: "I'm just talking bout Jimmy!" Lanksy: "I can dig it!" Capone: "He's a complicated man and no one understands him but his mother."
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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12/05/11 12:33 PM
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Oh, and since Nucky now knows that Van Alden drowned that one detective, I'm sure he can use it against him. He doesn't have to anymore. Very creepy episode, but also very interesting. I'm kind of indifferent about if it was necessary to go this extreme. The makers are taking a lot of risks. And btw, at first I had sympathy for Margaret, especially her situation, until she thought she could bribe "God" through that corrupt priest. What was she thinking? Ofcourse, she was desperate, but would that be an excuse? I don't think so.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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12/05/11 05:25 PM
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I wonder if Jimmy automatically knows it was Horvitz. Probably. Richard did seem to take it really hard. Given that he thought Jimmy had a great family life how will he process the revelation that Angela was playing house with other women? Who does Richard think committed the murders? Doyle found he was in over his head.
I was a little surprised by Van Alden's "run for the border" move. richard knows that jimmy wanted manny dead. he could see jimmy as the killer...by not pulling the trigger but putting his family in that predicament. doyle is an idiot, and i still have no idea how he survives. van alden is a crazy guy sent by the lord...what else do you expect?
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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12/06/11 06:25 AM
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The implication here is that Luciano ratted to get a shorter sentence.I've heard about his before.Was it actually proven that he ratted or is it just a rumor?
I don't think it was ever proven. I'm not sure about the timeline and don't have the texts in front of me now to look it up. According to Luciano's most recent bigrapher, Tim Newark, Luciano did indeed make a deal with the law. He gave up the location of an apartment on the lower east side with a considerable amount of heroin in it, and this is part of public record. But he supposedly didn't give up any names, which really Do you still have this book, I can't find it anywhere can't ever be verified at this point. So that's why the rumors persist. It should be pointed out that Luciano never hesitated to help himself later in life when it came to helping the government (namely the war effort, but there have been plenty of whispers about other things). He really hated jail. FYI: I just finished the Tim Newark book, "Lucky Luciano: The Real and the Fake Gangster," and I highly recommend it, corny title and all  .
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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I think sandusky is disturbing. Lilo is right on point you could see it coming. Gretchen Mol is going to be a power house of corruption for a little bit. I think alot of fictional characters will be killed at the drop of a dime after the past 2 episodes. How many seasons do you think they could drag this out for. It does have legs, but people get bored easily with some HBO Series, It IS kind of confusing because there's so many stories it seems but specifically the story about Jimmy and his mom was disturbing as far as I'm concerned. TIS
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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Does Jimmy Shower with his mom in this episode too, I can't remember? I was a little surprised by Van Alden's "run for the border" move. BugEyes bugged out. He did at that... ha-ha Cue wah-wah 16th notes.. Rothstein: "Tell me about Jimmy." Luciano: "They say this cat Jimmy is a bad muthaf-" Nucky: "Shut your mouth!!!" Luciano: "I'm just talking bout Jimmy!" Lanksy: "I can dig it!" Capone: "He's a complicated man and no one understands him but his mother."
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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I think Eli will make a run for it as well. I'm going to look that up, and see if his brother the sheriff was ever locked up for murder and there was speculation that his brother was going to testify against him to save his own buttox I was a little surprised by Van Alden's "run for the border" move. BugEyes bugged out.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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12/06/11 07:03 AM
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Does Jimmy Shower with his mom in this episode too, I can't remember?
No. Don't think so. The finale should be pretty exciting. There's a lot to wrap up. I don't see how Nucky can forgive both Jimmy and Eli. And I really don't see how Jimmy survives-no one has any use for him. Maybe he takes out Horvitz?
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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12/06/11 12:31 PM
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If Nucky married Margaret she could not be compelled to testify against him, is that correct? Well, we don't know NJ or federal law at the time, but it's probably true.
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