@Carmela The more I think about it, the more that makes sense. I always thought the theory about kidnapping Renda to negotiate with him was bullshit. You can't assume that's the truth just because of his rank. The other theory was for once, they didn't want another body. But that was even less plausible. If they had a body it could tell us so much. Partial dismemberment I hear about in Sicily. But in New York, torture never goes past severe beating, or at the most, cuts. The less creative, the more Western. I'm sure they'll never find him.