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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #616499
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Ivan, the 'Ivyleague' of the Ohio families.

Thanks for the info


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Thanks for the kind words.

You might be interested in this; it's an Ohio mob hit chronology annotated by Angelo Lonardo:

http://www.nevadaobserver.com/Reading%20...20Affidavit.htm

It's funny, when you hear the phrase "Italian Mafia", you probably don't immediately think of Ohio of all places, but in fact it used to be pretty bad here.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #616513
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Nice Ivan. Really.
Cleveland still has some "thing" closed to be called "an organization" even in smaller numbers.

But Youngstown and Pittsburgh are defunct, right?
Organization-wise I mean. Few bookies, collectors and shylocks don't really count.

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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #616516
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Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
Nice Ivan. Really.
Cleveland still has some "thing" closed to be called "an organization" even in smaller numbers.


I can't really call it an organization. "Network" is more appropriate. Papalardo seems to be more of a "first among equals" than a "boss". This network doesn't really do all that much.

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But Youngstown and Pittsburgh are defunct, right?
Organization-wise I mean. Few bookies, collectors and shylocks don't really count.


I can't comment on Pittsburgh with any confidence, but in my opinion the family essentially died when Michael Genovese died, despite the fact that there are a handful of 80 year old made guys still alive.

There are no made men operating in Youngstown as far as I know. So yeah, it is gone gone. And Pittsburgh will be gone gone in a few years.

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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: Ivan] #617286
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I thought Lenny Stroll was the last of Pittsburgh mafiosi left

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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #617363
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There's a few made guys left there, although some of these may have died over the past few years since this list was made -

Thomas "Sonny" Ciancutti
Eugene Chiarelli
Nicholas “Nick” DeLucia (Might not be made)
Robert "Bobby I" Ianelli
Anthony Imburgia
Mauro Matone


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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: Nicholas] #617369
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Originally Posted By: Nicholas
I thought Lenny Stroll was the last of Pittsburgh mafiosi left


Nope, but he was the last of the Youngstown made guys left.

By the way, I know a guy who insists that the Gambino crime family used to sell illegal fireworks in the Mahoning Valley (decent fireworks are illegal in Ohio), but somehow I doubt that. Strikes me as really really unlikely.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: Ivan] #621872
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William Cammisano Jr. and Michael Lombardo released to local KC half way house.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #622106
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Great udpdate...what's their rank?

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: BarrettM] #622124
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Michael V. Badalucco - released on 04-12-2011
Vincent F. Civella - released on 09-25-2011
Gerlarmo Cammisano - inc., release date: 03-03-2012
William D. Cammisano - inc., release date: 01-15-2012
James L. DiCapo - inc., release date: 04-26-2014 (?!?)
Michael J. Lombardo - in transit\inc., release date: 01-15-2012
James J. Moretina - in., release date 04-29-2012
Michael C. Sansone - no info found, he's gotta be out too.
Anthony V. Sansone - released on 06-23-2011
Charles J. Simone - released on 06-03-2011

Only three of these guys are made and they're William Cammisano, James Moretina and Vince Civella. Mukremin has the real whole chart on KC made guys.


Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: NJBoy55] #622180
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William Cammisano Jr is a Capo, Michael Lombardo is an associate. Gerry Cammisano is also made. Murk's chart is very very incorrect, I have tried to give him the information to correct it, but he chooses not to, by Joe Porrello was never a capo, his Dad Angelo was, Nick Labruzza was never made, his brother Vito was, I could go on and on, but whats the point. He lists guys on his chart as made and their not and he does not list guys who are LOL.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #622196
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My last Kansas City chart is not accurate, it has some errors. And i also mentioned i would be updating that soon, i am just waiting for more news. As always, priority for me is New York.


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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: Mukremin] #622226
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Not knocking you Murk, but if you need some imput let me know. Jimmy Duardi died last Dec. by the way. Paul Silvio is made and still active.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #622241
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Thank you smile i will start to collect information on them, and any help is welcome. I will let you guys know when ready.


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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #622251
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I checked out all those guys on the BOP Inmate Locator, an awesome service that beats any state operation I've encountered.

I was astounded at the young age of almost half these guys. Granted there's only 10 of them, and that's either the whole operation, a crew in the KC family, or the whole damn family itself.

Michael Badalucco - 28
Vincent Civella - 54
Gerlamo Cammisano - 58
William Cammisano - 62; who's currently held in KC itself at KC CCM
James DiCapo - 59
Michael Lombardo - 56; curiously enough there's also another Michael Lombardo at Sacramento CCM
James Moretina - 62; Moretina is currently at USP Leavenworth, and unusual prison to send such a criminal
Anthony Sansone - 29
Charles J. Simone - 26

I was stunned at the young age of nearly the whole crew. Even the guys out of their 20's are only in their mid-50's. Granted it seems that the guys in their 20's have fathers who were once part of the KC Borgata, but regardless I found it shocking to see so many young guys


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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: Nicholas] #622255
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Actually Muk's chart is very correct. Mukremin, don't believe everybody that tells you something. If they do tell you a person is made or just an associate of a family make sure you try to check out the facts by doing a search or what ever you can.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: NJBoy55] #622260
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Also, I love your charts Muk! Keep up the great work.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: IvyLeague] #622279
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Chicago is really the only viable family left outside of the northeast. There isn't enough left in Kansas City or St. Louis for them to be concerned with. And the Outfit doesn't operate that much outside of Chicago anyway.


You are right about that!

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: NJBoy55] #622334
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Sorry dude but you dont know what your talking about. He has dead guys on there, he has 4 capos and KC has two. I saw your stupid post from Merry Ferrell and 3/4 of the names you have on their are dead. Murks charts are good but in this case he has it wrong. Your telling me I am wrong and you live 1000 miles away from here. He does not have Carlo Caverllaro listed, he does not have Paul Silvio, Pete Tamburello listed, he does not have Jerry Cammissano listed, he has Joe Porrello listed as a Capo, his Dad Angelo was the capo, He does not have Frank Termini listed, Jimmy Duardi is dead, Nick Labuzza was never made according to trial transcripts, his brother Vito was, at the time he put the chart out Chuck Caccioppo was still alive and he was not not listed.

Sorry if this sounds like i am an asshole, but when it comes to KC no one on this board knows more about the family then or now than I do, period.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: joey_dice] #622336
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Originally Posted By: joey_dice
Sorry dude but you dont know what your talking about. He has dead guys on there, he has 4 capos and KC has two. I saw your stupid post from Merry Ferrell and 3/4 of the names you have on their are dead. Murks charts are good but in this case he has it wrong. Your telling me I am wrong and you live 1000 miles away from here. He does not have Carlo Caverllaro listed, he does not have Paul Silvio, Pete Tamburello listed, he does not have Jerry Cammissano listed, he has Joe Porrello listed as a Capo, his Dad Angelo was the capo, He does not have Frank Termini listed, Jimmy Duardi is dead, Nick Labuzza was never made according to trial transcripts, his brother Vito was, at the time he put the chart out Chuck Caccioppo was still alive and he was not not listed.

Sorry if this sounds like i am an asshole, but when it comes to KC no one on this board knows more about the family then or now than I do, period.


Hey Joe Dice, why don't you go throw some dice? About Angelo Porrelo, you are right, he must have cunfused him for his son Joe, but other then that you're wrong. Please don't disrespect me, I did nothing to you. I live close to where the DeCavalcante's are in Newerk, but don't know everything about them.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: Nicholas] #622337
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Why would you find Leavenworth an unusual prison for a mobster? As for the number there is more than 10 but less than 20 made guys.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #622340
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Look, i am not an expert on Kansas City. There isnt much left there anyways, but the information for my chart came from good sources. And i know its hard to make a very very accurate chart, but most of my charts are very accurate at this moment. And so far, no one has made a better one. Except maybe for the Chicago chart on realdeal forum.


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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: Mukremin] #622342
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True that, Muk.

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Seriously you can disrepect me but I am not to disrepct you, lol whatever, okay I will spell it out for you slowly. Jerry Cammissano made in 1987 by his Dad Willie Cammisano. Carlo Caverllaro identified as made in the Sutera trail transcripts, gambling indictments of 1991. Joe Porrello made but incarserated. Frank Termini made in the 70's. Chuck Cacciopo and Tommy Caccioppo made in the 60's. Jimmy Duardi died Dec 2010. Paul Silvio made in the 60's business partner of Nick and Tony Civella, Antonios Pizzaria and Pink Garter strip club. Pete Tamburello, made in the 60's, Nick Civella's driver and body guard. Nick Labruzza listed in trial transcripts as an associate to the family. So piss off, take your outdated research and shut up because you dont know what your fucking talking about.

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Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: Mukremin] #622344
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Murk I am not bagging on your chart, just trying to get you updated information, if you want it great if not then I could careless, but your cheerleader is the one making this an issue. So could you please tell her to put the pom poms away.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: joey_dice] #622345
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1. Duardi - You are right

2. Joseph Porello - You are right, he is a soldier and the son of dead capo Angelo.

But your other info is not factual at all, Mukremin did a great job and has got the info from pretty good sources.

Your the one who is acting like a bitch.. You're a fag!


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okay whatever sweetie pie.

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: joey_dice] #622348
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You would run from me if you saw me in person. You are nothing but a computer tough guy. Now he wants to get on your good side Muk, two people against him was too much. What a coward and Wannabe!!

Re: KC guys out...(almost)... [Re: LuanKuci] #622351
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Guys.. Please.. We can get along, this is a good thing we have different ideas. But lets not get it out of control please.


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Wait a second, you saying I am an internet tough guy, yet your threatening me LOL. Why arnt you in school because you cant be more than 15, so why dont you be a good little girl and clean your room and stay off the internet where adults converse.

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