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Re: Rare photos
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that's been a theory stated on many mob docs and articles. Hmm. Then why did you ask me where I read it, as if it were the first you'd heard of it? Because like I've been saying the whole time, the creator of the show David Chase never stated that The Sopranos were based on anyone specific or let along a specific family. The most he said was during a piece for the Godfather Remastered Edition which came out in '08. He's in one of the extra clips, and they're talking about The Godfather and the things they influenced, which is almost everything, and the subject of the Sopranos is brought up and Chase says "This is based on the people I've seen as a kid"...That vague statement was all he said as far as the Sopranos being based on actual people. People draw similarities, and come to the conclusion that it was based on The Decav's, and many mob docs and news articles make this mistake and use their own comparisons as fact. But factually, the creator never stated that they were based on any specific family or person. Thats what I meant by where'd you read that. I thought you'd actually had an article or proof of David Chase actually saying his show, The Sopranos were based on the DeCalvacantes. But he's never said that. The members being recorded saying the show was based on them, doesn't prove anything either, they had nothing to do with the creation of the show, and you know mob guys and their ego, especially those idiots who were operating during Vincent Palermo's time as acting boss. Again, we can save this for another thread. Hey guys, finally got a date for that photo, it was taken in the late 90's. But on the subject of Accardo, he's actually featured in that Dave S "mob talks" piece, recorded standing on a stoop talking with Borgesi, Michael Lancelotti & a Dave Salvo. Giacomo Amari - acting boss, stomach cancer. Jackie Aprile - acting boss, stomach cancer. Charles Majuri - felt he deserved to be boss, tried to kill Vinny Palermo for having to be part of ruling panel instead Junior Soprano - felt he deserved to be boss, tried to kill Tony Soprano for usurping him. Are you really denying this obvious connection between the DeCavalcante situation in the '90s and season 1 of the Sopranos? I think you just like to argue for the sake of arguing.
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Re: Rare photos
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that's been a theory stated on many mob docs and articles. Hmm. Then why did you ask me where I read it, as if it were the first you'd heard of it? Because like I've been saying the whole time, the creator of the show David Chase never stated that The Sopranos were based on anyone specific or let along a specific family. The most he said was during a piece for the Godfather Remastered Edition which came out in '08. He's in one of the extra clips, and they're talking about The Godfather and the things they influenced, which is almost everything, and the subject of the Sopranos is brought up and Chase says "This is based on the people I've seen as a kid"...That vague statement was all he said as far as the Sopranos being based on actual people. People draw similarities, and come to the conclusion that it was based on The Decav's, and many mob docs and news articles make this mistake and use their own comparisons as fact. But factually, the creator never stated that they were based on any specific family or person. Thats what I meant by where'd you read that. I thought you'd actually had an article or proof of David Chase actually saying his show, The Sopranos were based on the DeCalvacantes. But he's never said that. The members being recorded saying the show was based on them, doesn't prove anything either, they had nothing to do with the creation of the show, and you know mob guys and their ego, especially those idiots who were operating during Vincent Palermo's time as acting boss. Again, we can save this for another thread. Hey guys, finally got a date for that photo, it was taken in the late 90's. But on the subject of Accardo, he's actually featured in that Dave S "mob talks" piece, recorded standing on a stoop talking with Borgesi, Michael Lancelotti & a Dave Salvo. Giacomo Amari - acting boss, stomach cancer. Jackie Aprile - acting boss, stomach cancer. Charles Majuri - felt he deserved to be boss, tried to kill Vinny Palermo for having to be part of ruling panel instead Junior Soprano - felt he deserved to be boss, tried to kill Tony Soprano for usurping him. Are you really denying this obvious connection between the DeCavalcante situation in the '90s and season 1 of the Sopranos? I think you just like to argue for the sake of arguing. Maybe you didn't see Yates post where he also pointed out that Junior Soprano wasn't based on Charles Majuri, but Joe Giaccobe? Maybe not. But like I've been saying this entire time, you can continue to debate with yourself if you want to. But again, David Chase, the creator of the show, NEVER said that Soprano's were based on any specific real life gangster or crime family.
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Re: Rare photos
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But again, David Chase, the creator of the show, NEVER said that Soprano's were based on any specific real life gangster or crime family. Exactly...They took bits and pieces from the different crime families that operated out of the state, primarily the Luc. Gen. Gam. & DeCav's.
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Re: Rare photos
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Michael Ciancaglini Carmine Galante Tony Corallo Vito Rizzuto John "Boobie" Cerasani John Capra
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Re: Rare photos
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Re: Rare photos
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William "Action" Jackson in the morgue. Joseph "Clown" Lombardo (r) and "Legs" D'Antonio (l) "Legs" D'Antonio Ralph "Wigs" Galione Tony Spilotro at baptism Tony Spilotro Sammy "Bull" Gravano Ignoffo; Inendino, Infelise J. Di Fronzo; P. Di Fronzo; Forliano Cimino; Cortina; Cozzo Salvatore Vitale Alfred De Congilio (Gambino) Frank Coppa Jr. Henry Hill and Jimmy Burke Anthony Nicodemo Gary Battaglini (Philly) Ralph Staino and Bobby Simone John Gotti Jr. Domenico Cefalu Frank De Cicco
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Re: Rare photos
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Yeah they just look fuckin stupid , I told Ava d'arco your dad was a informant , why do u keep saying he was a man of honor . She didn't reply and blocked me She shouldn't go as far as saying her pops was a "Man of Honor" There has been some debate as to whether d'Arco is a rat. Casso and Amuso were killing stand up guys out of paranoia, changing the rules of the game daily. There was an attempt to try to take out Casso but failed. When you live your whole life by a set of rules that are understood among men in the life then two friggin paranoid fucks change them what are you supposed to do? (Like I said they couldn't take out Casso) Your pals are all getting clipped you are next... Linda Scarpa she's a disgrace so is her mother Shiro and Karen Gravano is disgusting but as for the d'Arco daughter she really does have a good argument cuz her pops would have died a stand up guy if it weren't for friggin Casso changing the rules of the game That is a bullshit argument. Plenty of wiseguys have been in the same boat of their Boss wants to whack them. For instance, Sonny Black Napolitano knew he was marked for death, he also knew he fucked up. He could've ratted and said he "had no way out", but he was a stand up guy. He knew the life and knew the consequences and he went like a man. On the other side for example was John Gotti. He knew Paul wanted him dead, was going to take out junk dealers. Did he rat because he was marked for death? No he took gathered support and took out the Boss. It wasn't a cut and dry situation either. If they fucked up the hit on Paul, their whole crew was gonna get whacked. So to hear a guy say, the Bosses were gonna whack me I had no other choice is bullshit. You have several choices. #1 go when your called and take the death like a man. It's what you signed up for when you got in the life. #2 take out the Boss for a self defense measure, several guys have done that and gotten away with it. #3 go on the run into hiding with your ill gotten gains and wait it out, pray they don't find you but if you do defend yourself. Too many guys are weak and create option #4 be a rat and go to the government because you're scared to get killed or do time. And #4 is bs. All those guys knew what they signed up for. It was always prison, death, or a long life making easy money and die of old age. They created #4 because they were weak. Casso IS a Homicidal maniac, D Arco was about making money and not about Killing. Did he leave some facts out? maybe. Casso and Amuso were greedy bastards, they wanted to take out anyone that may challenge them and they wanted to not only get the upkick they wanted everyone elses money too. After they wacked all those guys they started whispering that D Arco was doing unsanctioned hits., this way they could clean up any loose ends by blaming him. Real Men of honor dont do what Casso and Amuso did. Al played by the rules. Casso enjoyed killing. Lots of guys talk tough but see how you feel when someone is gonna send an army of killers after you and your family.
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Re: Rare photos
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Re: Rare photos
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Joe Dogs is STILL alive?
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How the heck is Benny Eggs still alive? Not only does he look 90 in photos from 30 years ago but, he always seemed to be 100lbs. overweight. I know he is stll alive but does anyone know if he is still very overweight? Joe Dogs has been dead a few years, funnt cuz I saw his obit in the NY Post.
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Re: Rare photos
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Wait, wait, wait.
Wasn't Al D'Arco's son one of the guys who tried to take out Fat Pete Chiodo?
Wasn't Al D'Arco's son in the hit team that was sent to CA to take out Anthony Di Lapi?
It's funny how Al and Joseph didn't start acquiring morals then. What was the justification for whacking Chiodo or Di Lapi?
D'Arco sold drugs and his son got hooked on them. He was a thief who stole from Casso and Amuso.
He's a complete and utter lowlife and I don't buy his reasons for ratting.
It's self preservation. Yes Joey D Arco Killed Di Lapi on orders from his dad that came from Amuso n Gas, D arco sold dope never tried to hide it got pinched and did his time for it and so what if he did? D arco did not initiate any of the murders. Gaspipe was the guy that buries a weed smuggler alive just as an insurance policy. Casso an Amuso are scummbags. If you have proof of D arco stealing from the family please share it. D arco did not turn for moral reasons he turned to save his life and his sons and families. I dont know d arco besides seeing him around in Little Italy and never knew who he was with or cared. By the way his son got hookes from heroin fronted to him through Casso and amuso while D Arco was in prison. Back in the 80s lots of people sold dope so what? The only guy I know of that stayed away from dope their whole sordid career was Scarfo. When shit gets real and people looking to kill you you do what you have to do to survive. By the way D arco never claimmed to turn for moral reasons his reasons were he never stole from the bosses, did what they told him to do than they put a rat jacket on him when they found amuso.
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Re: Rare photos
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How do you know that had the Castellano attempt failed, and Castellano recruited the majority of the Gambino family to seek retribution against Gotti and his guys, how do any of us know that Gotti wouldn't of flipped if given a chance? I don't think "he was a stand up guy all his life" is a good explanation, because Gravano was a stand up guy all his life and still flipped when given the opportunity. I side with you on this one, I'm not sure gotti would not have ratted, if I were in the life he would be the last guy I would have trusted. he did his guys wrong by telling them not to plea bargain, and a few got some time, just listening to him. a good boss would have let them plea bargain. both of you don't get it then. Gravano never spent time in jail, he was out for himself and an opportunists. Gotti's ego was so big he would take a death penalty sentence before he ever buckled under the Feds. Scarfo was the same. When you realize the difference between Scarfo/Gotti with people like Gravano/Leonetti maybe then you will get it.
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