You guys are good ! Why did I know that thar was comin We are a good family hare

Ya i didn't mean to get off the topic i was just a little surprised that all of a sudden someone was pissed lol. anyway back to the topic paul castellano is a good example but castellano was responsible for a shitload of people getting whacked

No problem man i have the hangover as well lol

what about Junior Gotti I doubt he pulled the trigger .. he has shot a couple of people but didn't kill em and never meant to either...

He was just playen with his daddys gun and should have been .

Junior stabbed a guy to death in 1983. According to John alite he whacked a drug dealer a few days before he was made in 1988 and then drove back to see the body. One thing i can say for sure is that junior has killed more than his old man

I don't really wanna go down this road again but come on .. are you serious... Junior Gotti has killed more people than his father?, I strongly disagree with that and I don't think alite knows his asshole from his elbow.. can you show me where your read that Junior has killed people?

In 1983 daniel sliwa was stabbed at the silver fox bar. It was confirmed gotti was there and got into a fight with him. George Grosso was nother victim of junior. look I never said gotti never killed someone but he was not a member of murder inc lol

Gotti was a tough guy but that doesn't me he was a hitman. I can name all the guys he was involved in murders with and i see only two that it was possible that he could have personally killed. when McBratney was wahcked in 73 at snoope's bar he and angleo held jimmy while ralph galione shot him. In August 1979 gott angelo and willie boy were involved in anthony plaet's murder in florida. Now maybe he did kill plate but it seems more likely that willie boy did and willie boy was also involved favara's murder. i'm not trying to start anything again i jst feel that i shouldn't lie about facts

"According to the reports, Cennamo, who is also identified as John Cennamo in the reports, was one of four patrons at the Silver Fox who had identified Mark Caputo as the knife-wielding suspect who killed Silva, Caputo was assigned by Gotti Sr to watch over his son and on that evening left the Silver Fox with Junior. After Cennamo's death, the other witnesses either left the state or recanted, and the prosecutors dropped the charges against Caputo in 1985." - check it out..

I did check that out on friendsofours.com back in 2009. Junior said his father ordered John carneglia and angleo to kill cennamo and make it look like a suicide which is why he was hung from a tree. But this is all i am trying to say Gotti Sr is a murderer but he ordered all the murders but that still makes you a murderer

Interesting , good info gentleman .

so he didn't stab that guy to death then?, it was Mark Caputo according to four witnesses - 3 recanted or left the state and one apparently had depression lol..I agree Johnny Canig and Fat Ange would have done this no problem ...even if you aint the one who actually stabbed the guy, you leave with the killer and don't report it you still go to jail as if you were so his father was protecting his son.. even though it was caputo who killed the guy

Ya thats the point gotti sr was also present in murders but he didn't actually kill anybody either. good info man

Ya thats the point gotti sr was also present in murders but he didn't actually kill anybody either. good info man. I think that Junior could have also been the killer. That case a lot of guys lied so either Caputo or Junior may be the one

I cant remember where I read it but IIRC Gambino said Lucchese was one of the best hit men he ever knew, even better than Anastasia because he was a marksman and always kept his cool never letting anger or emotion cloud his thoughts.

Exactly. It's one of questions that we can speculate on until hell freezes over.

I don't think carlo or paul ever did does anyone know if the chin or amuso did?

Gigante would have but his aim was bad.

amuso shot and killed buddy luongo in the back of the head at a sitdown with casso as his first act as boss of the lucchese family

According to pic chin missed on purpose. I will find th post and put it up, there is a couple telling of reasons why. Th main one is that Chin and Vito would have had to have been killed if they would have carried out the hit.

Don't believe the "play-by-the-rules" bullshit. Mob bosses were getting killed left and right in the 50s without any retribution. Genovese's biggest mistake was picking someone who got rattled around the ring too often to do the shooting.

Was it really a mistake if Genovese got his desired result anyway?

I always wondered why Chin wasn't clipped for bungling that job, but if he did purposely miss he would have to be one hell of a marksman.

Chins mistake was yelling at Costello just before firing, he should have just popped him and Frank would never have known what hit him!

Please post if you find it.
I don´t understand the logic behind the failed hit, but it would be interesting to read the post.

I think the only sure are Angelo Bruno, who did a lot of money from illegal gambling and was a friend of Carlo Gambino, when the boss of the family of Philadelphia wanted to kill him, Bruno brought the matter before the Commission, it is thanks to Don Carlo became boss of the Philadelphia family, without, to kill the old boss.and Jerry Angiulo that in the 50s, promised and kept his promise to give to Patriarca, 100,000 dollars a month, in return he became a made man

John Scalish Cleveland boss

Don Carlo worked as a hitman from a very young age, he killed people I'm almost 100% sure

Where did you hear this out of interest?

I've heard it from one documentary when I find it, I'll post it to you.