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Re: Election 2012
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01/02/12 12:03 PM
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Just read this (intended for a good laugh not to start a political debate with Left vs Right) "Democrats are sexy and Republicans are not. Have you ever heard of a good piece of elephant?"  Isn't that hilarious? TIS
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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01/02/12 12:05 PM
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Just read this (intended for a good laugh not to start a political debate with Left vs Right) "Democrats are sexy and Republicans are not. Have you ever heard of a good piece of elephant?" Isn't that hilarious? TIS What if the GOP ran a Michele Bachman/Sarah Palin ticket?
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Re: Election 2012
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01/02/12 12:56 PM
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Obama is the most vulnerable incumbent since Jimmy Carter. But, unlike Carter, who faced a formidable opponent (Reagan), Obama stands an excellent chance of winning. The GOP debates have worn down every candidate and exposed their flaws. Romney keeps leading, but by small margins. Nobody's enthusiastic about him, so he wins by default. Everytime someone new pops up with a new idea, he surges to the front--only to be dragged down by his quickly exposed flaws, weaknesses and skeletons in his closet.
So, if it's Romney, a lot of GOPs are going to sit on their hands in the presidential election. Also, there's a good chance that someone like Paul or Bachmann will launch a third party candidacy that will guarantee an Obama victory. And even if they don't, Romney's likely to make the same mistake McCain made in 2008--he'll keep looking to the Right, to assure them he's one of them, and not to the Middle, where the people are who elect presidents. It will be interesting to see who Romney picks as a runing mate. I would not rule out Latino or a woman.
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Re: Election 2012
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01/02/12 01:41 PM
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Obama is the most vulnerable incumbent since Jimmy Carter. But, unlike Carter, who faced a formidable opponent (Reagan), Obama stands an excellent chance of winning. The GOP debates have worn down every candidate and exposed their flaws. Romney keeps leading, but by small margins. Nobody's enthusiastic about him, so he wins by default. Everytime someone new pops up with a new idea, he surges to the front--only to be dragged down by his quickly exposed flaws, weaknesses and skeletons in his closet.
So, if it's Romney, a lot of GOPs are going to sit on their hands in the presidential election. Also, there's a good chance that someone like Paul or Bachmann will launch a third party candidacy that will guarantee an Obama victory. And even if they don't, Romney's likely to make the same mistake McCain made in 2008--he'll keep looking to the Right, to assure them he's one of them, and not to the Middle, where the people are who elect presidents. It will be interesting to see who Romney picks as a runing mate. I would not rule out Latino or a woman. or both
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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01/02/12 03:54 PM
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What about the Chris Christie rumor?? Or did the Governor ruin that with his "I'll be back Jersey style," comment the other day?? He's so obnoxious. And that's coming from a New Yorker! I'm thinking Christie will be considered but I tend to think only certain people like him and don't know if most people will like his know it all arrogance and sarcasm.  We'll see. He doesn't seem impressive at all if you ask me. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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01/02/12 03:59 PM
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But he said he felt he wasn't ready for Presidency and wanted to finish NJs work. Yet, as VP you must be ready to take over for President if, God forbid, anything happened. So he'd be ready for VP but not President? That being said, ANY candidate who would consider Palin or Bachman as VP I think would be very very simply put, dumb. TIS
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Re: Election 2012
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01/02/12 04:10 PM
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What about the Chris Christie rumor?? Or did the Governor ruin that with his "I'll be back Jersey style," comment the other day?? He's so obnoxious. And that's coming from a New Yorker! "Jersey style"? Never heard of "Jersey style." Sounds rather perverted to me...  I read that Santorum would nullify gay marriages if elected. Amazing at it sounds, I do believe that there actually are gay Republican voters. I can't imagine that comment would sit well with them. Signor V.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Signor Vitelli]
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01/02/12 04:37 PM
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What about the Chris Christie rumor?? Or did the Governor ruin that with his "I'll be back Jersey style," comment the other day?? He's so obnoxious. And that's coming from a New Yorker! "Jersey style"? Never heard of "Jersey style." Sounds rather perverted to me... I read that Santorum would nullify gay marriages if elected. Amazing at it sounds, I do believe that there actually are gay Republican voters. I can't imagine that comment would sit well with them. Signor V. You haven't heard of Log Cabin Republicans? A President doesn't have any Constitutional or statutory authority to nullify gay marriages. Even attempting to do so would cause an uproar from states as a Prima facie violation of federalism that the federal courts would uphold.
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Re: Election 2012
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01/02/12 07:15 PM
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You haven't heard of Log Cabin Republicans? I had, but drew a blank as far as their name when I posted before. Brain freeze. A President doesn't have any Constitutional or statutory authority to nullify gay marriages. Which is what struck me when I read it. But still, for Santorum to go out on a limb and say it....  Signor V.
"For me, there's only my wife..."
"Sure I cook with wine - sometimes I even add it to the food!"
"When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?"
"It was a grass harp... And we listened."
"Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it? Every, every minute?"
"No. Saints and poets, maybe... they do some."
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Signor Vitelli]
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01/02/12 08:43 PM
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A President doesn't have any Constitutional or statutory authority to nullify gay marriages. Which is what struck me when I read it. But still, for Santorum to go out on a limb and say it.... Signor V. [/quote] That's one thing that chaps me about presidential candidates ... the way they use I, I, I as if there are not two other branches of governemnt. I especially get chapped when a candidate states that they will lower taxes. No they won't. Only the Congress can do that. I think those candidates presume too much. But Santorum is something of a religious fanatic. You usually don't hear of a Catholic described that way. But as a former Catholic, I know of what I speak.
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Re: Election 2012
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01/02/12 09:07 PM
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That's one thing that chaps me about presidential candidates ... the way they use I, I, I as if there are not two other branches of governemnt. I especially get chapped when a candidate states that they will lower taxes. No they won't. Only the Congress can do that. I think those candidates presume too much.
That's because they assume their voters are ignorant morons. And if elected officials reflect their voters...
But Santorum is something of a religious fanatic. You usually don't hear of a Catholic described that way. But as a former Catholic, I know of what I speak.
With exception of Paul, that entire field are full of religious fanatics. Yes even Mittens, who may or may not sincerely believe the homophobic government activism the GOP has preached and practiced for the last several decades, but he'll carry that rhetoric (if softened) and policy. Poor Paul, he could've won more votes if he threated gays a national threat just like the other candidates.
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Re: Election 2012
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01/03/12 02:59 PM
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Btw, here's Governor Chris "Soprano" Christie, threatening the people of Iowa if they don't do "the right thing" and give the win to Romney. I guess Christie doesn't mind propagating the stereotype of the blue collar New York/New Jersey guy as thuggish .
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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01/03/12 03:25 PM
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Have any of you heard about this regarding Rick Santorum? I don't know when it happened. I think it was many years ago. What do you think, especially you ladies? The boy only lived two hours after birth:
"We kept little Gabriel with us that night and we brought him home the next day," Santorum said at a campaign stop in Newton, Iowa. "We brought him home so our children could see him."
Oli, I just heard about that yesterday and only picked up a little more today. Do I understand then that the baby was stillborn and they brought the body home so the family could see him? I have never heard of such a thing and am surprised a hospital would allow it. I can imagine the grief of the loss, but this sounds a little eerie to me.  TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
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01/03/12 03:50 PM
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Have any of you heard about this regarding Rick Santorum? I don't know when it happened. I think it was many years ago. What do you think, especially you ladies? The boy only lived two hours after birth:
"We kept little Gabriel with us that night and we brought him home the next day," Santorum said at a campaign stop in Newton, Iowa. "We brought him home so our children could see him."
Oli, I just heard about that yesterday and only picked up a little more today. Do I understand then that the baby was stillborn and they brought the body home so the family could see him? I have never heard of such a thing and am surprised a hospital would allow it. I can imagine the grief of the loss, but this sounds a little eerie to me. TIS this sounds more creepier than the duggard family.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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01/03/12 05:37 PM
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Wow, that is creepy.  It sounds like an episode of "American Horror Story." TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
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01/03/12 11:32 PM
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Anyone else following the Iowa Caucus? Looks like it'll go down to the wire. Geez, at this point, if it ends this close, is there really any winner? Santorum 24 Romney 24 Paul 22 (49 per cent reporting) TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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01/03/12 11:40 PM
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Oli, I know the Caucus is different with few voting. As far as NH, isn't it more or less a given that Romney will win because it's his neck of the woods? TIS
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