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Re: mobsters favorite vacation/hideout
[Re: botz]
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01/07/12 04:23 PM
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Turnbull
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Any show of wealth by mobsters is likely to catch the attention of law enforcement. That's why gangsters generally don't let people know about their vacation homes or plans. The smart ones maintain a modest home in the city to go along with the "legitimate" job they hold for tax purposes (i.e., Joe Columbo was a "realtor"). One exception was Paul Castellano, who had a nice condo in Pompano Beach, FL, and a lavish mansion in Staten Island, NY. Sammy da Bull Gravano had a horse farm in central NJ. John Gotti vacationed in Miami, but he had a reason to let people know where he was sunning himself: he was there when his neighbor, John Favara, who had the misfortune of running over and killing Gotti's son, was executed. The Miami vacation was his alibi.
Some gangsters of earlier eras lived a bit more openly. Charlie Luciano and Frank Costello lived in suites at NYC's upscale Waldorf Astoria Hotel. Albert Anastasia had a big second home across the Hudson River in NJ.
As for hiding out abroad: The fact that a country doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US, is no guarantee that the country won't extradite a gangster if the US government puts pressure on it. Israel didn't have an extradition treaty with the US, but the Justice Dept. leaned on Israel's Interior Ministry to deny Lansky's application for citizenship. After his visa expired, out he went. Sometimes "asylum" gets political: Cuba sheltered some Sixties radicals who killed cops. Algeria sheltered Black Panthers and Timothy Leary. But the political winds can shift abruptly. Sicily might seem a natural place for US Mafiosi on the run to seek refuge. Don't bet on it.
There are plenty of two-bit dictators who'll shelter criminals on the run. Generally, the dictators will shake down the criminals and dump them when they've been bled dry.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: mobsters favorite vacation/hideout
[Re: botz]
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01/07/12 04:50 PM
01/07/12 04:50 PM
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Lenin_and_McCarthy
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What is the best vacation places that mobsters like go to or their favorite place to go to on the run. If mobster went to Venezuela they couldn't extradite them i think cause Venezuela is a communist country and I think alot of mobsters go to costa rica or puerto rico alot. I find this mildly amusing. And yes, we do have an extradition treaty with Venezuela. As far as I knew, most American mobsters stay in hiding in the states. Which I suppose makes sense, as there's no reason to assume they would have any other international cultural experiences to help them blend in elsewhere.
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Re: mobsters favorite vacation/hideout
[Re: Turnbull]
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01/08/12 07:33 AM
01/08/12 07:33 AM
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gemini_killer
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sam giancana, mexico.. was his, I believe they had to kidnap his old ass and fly him back to chicago in a pair of jim-jams... and slippers ...very amusing
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White
You say your 72, if they come back and tell me to give you a message - and if you want to defy it ... I assure you that you will never reach 73 - Joey "the clown" Lombardo
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Re: mobsters favorite vacation/hideout
[Re: botz]
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01/08/12 07:03 PM
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GaryH
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The United States maintains diplomatic relations, but does not have extradition treaties with the following countries: Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican, and Vietnam
If your a New York mob guy on the run - take your pick!
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Re: mobsters favorite vacation/hideout
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01/08/12 07:58 PM
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Nicholas
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That's quite a bit to name every one of them!
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: mobsters favorite vacation/hideout
[Re: GaryH]
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01/08/12 08:39 PM
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Strax
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The United States maintains diplomatic relations, but does not have extradition treaties with the following countries: Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican, and Vietnam
If your a New York mob guy on the run - take your pick! I live in Serbia and its not true.
"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
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Re: mobsters favorite vacation/hideout
[Re: Strax]
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01/09/12 01:16 AM
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MayfieldRoadMob
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Back in the day it was Owney Madden's hot springs resort. Now, whoever said "their mom's basement" is probably onto something. If not their mom's then an uncle or cousin.
"Makea him go away!" -Paul The Waiter Ricca
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