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Re: ISO Forbes/fortune most recent richest US gangster
[Re: Atothej]
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01/13/12 03:53 AM
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Here's that list from 1986. Not exactly recent. And take it all with a grain of salt.
#1 Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno (Genovese) - construction, unions, gambling, loansharking #2 Anthony "Joe Batters" Accardo (Chicago) - gambling, unions, loansharking #3 Anthony "Tony Ducks" Corallo (Lucchese) - garbage, extortion #4 Gerardo "Gerry" Catena (Genovese) - construction, gambling, casinos #5 Gennaro "Jerry Lang" Langella (Colombo) - construction, loansharing, gambling #6 Carmine "Junior" Persico (Colombo) - construction, loansharking, gambling #7 Christopher "Christie Tick" Furnari (Lucchese) - construction, unions, gambling, loansharking #8 Salvatore "Tom Mix" Santoro (Lucchese) - construction, unions, loansharking #9 Philip "Rusty" Rastelli (Bonanno) - concrete, unions, loansharking, narcotics #10 Vincent DiNapoli (Genovese) - construction, unions #11 Ralph Scopo (Colombo) - construction, unions #12 Russell Bufalino (Northeast Pennsylvania) - sweetheart contracts #13 John Gotti (Gambino) - loansharking, robbery, phonograph records #14 Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonanno (Bonanno) - narcotics #15 Santo "Louis Santos" Trafficante (Tampa) - gambling, loansharking, narcotics #16 Carlos "Little Man" Marcello (New Orleans) - gambling, real estate, nightclubs #17 Frank "Frankie Bal" Balistrieri (Milwaukee) - gambling, liquor, Teamsters pension fund #18 Michael Franzese (Colombo) - movies, auto dealerships, bootleg gasoline #19 Vincent "The Chin" Gigante (Genovese) - unions, gambling, loansharking #20 Joseph "Joe Negall" Ferriola (Chicago) - gambling, extortion #21 Joseph "Joey O'Brien" Aiuppa (Chicago) - gambling, casinos, unions #22 Gus "Slim" Alex (Chicago) - gambling, political fixing #23 Vincent "Jimmy Blue Eyes" Alo (Genovese) - gambling, casinos, money laundering #24 Anthony "Bruno" Indelicato (Bonanno) - narcotics #25 Michael "Mike" Genovese (Pittsburgh) - gambling #26 Joseph N. Gallo (Gambino) - pornography, real estate #27 Philip "Benny Squint" Lombardo (Genovese) - construction, gambling, loansharking #28 Raymond "Long John" Martorano (Philadelphia) - narcotics, unions, vending machines #29 Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano (Genovese) - unions #30 John "Jackie" Cerone (Chicago) - casinos #31 James "Jimmy Nap" Napoli (Genovese) - gambling, loansharking #32 Paul Vario (Lucchese) - gambling, robbery #33 Carl "Toughy" DeLuna (Kansas City) - gambling, casinos #34 Gennaro "Jerry" Angiulo (New England) - numbers, loansharking, money laundering #35 Matthew "Matty the Horse" Ianniello (Genovese) - unions, topless bars, loansharking #36 James "Jimmy Brown" Failla (Gambino) - unions #37 John Riggi (New Jersey) - construction, waterfront unions #38 Louis "Bobby" Manna (Genovese) - construction, gambling, loansharking) #39 John "Johnny Dee" DiGilio (Genovese) - waterfront unions, gambling, loansharking #40 William "Willie" Cammisano (Kansas City) - gambling, loansharking, fencing #41 Vincent "Little Vince" Meli (Detroit) - steel hauling #42 Vincent "Vince" Solano (Chicago) - gambling, unions #43 Nicodemo "Nicky" Scarfo (Philadelphia) - gambling, numbers, unions #44 Tino "The Greek" Fiumara (Genovese) - waterfront unions #45 Donald "Don Angel" Angelini (Chicago) - gambling #46 Peter "Pete" Milano (Los Angeles) - gambling #47 Paul "Paulie" Schiro (Chicago) - gambling #48 Chris Petti (Chicago) - gambling #49 Angelo "Little Angie" Tuninaro (Lucchese) - narcotics #50 Frank "Fifi" Buccieri (Chicago) - loansharking
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Re: ISO Forbes/fortune most recent richest US gangster
[Re: Atothej]
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01/13/12 01:28 PM
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I would think the West Side crew has some heavy hitters..
Dinapoli is 10.. wow..
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Re: ISO Forbes/fortune most recent richest US gangster
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01/13/12 01:34 PM
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fat tony had some real money .. big money.. not sure if he had more than Tony Accardo.. he was a real wealthy guy
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White
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Re: ISO Forbes/fortune most recent richest US gangster
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01/14/12 05:47 PM
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how could someone like mike geneovese from pittsburgh be above someone like scarfo who operates a much a big family in a much bigger city? just seems off to me..... Exactly. You can tell that whoever compiled the list tried to include at least one guy from just about every family around the country. It's really not based on anything. After all, in terms of personal wealth, where's Tommy Gambino on that list? yes i noticed that....this was published in what 86/87? seemed like the media was even more in love with mob at that time then say now....the big commission case had just happened. big public hits....gotti....i can remember being younger and the last trial of gotti being huge! broadcasted all over! too bad cameras aren't allowed in fed courtrooms like they are in state trials...i would love to watch the bulger trial etc etc etc
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Re: ISO Forbes/fortune most recent richest US gangster
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01/15/12 06:32 AM
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Mike Genovese also had no competition and controlled eastern Ohio, West Virginia and all of western Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh was strong at that time and dominated their region. Net worth was estimated to be $12-$15 million. Scarfo was not a boss for that long and his family was at war on the street for quite some time, somost of their operations were suspended. Plus Mike Genovese was dominating the drug trade in the region. I still don't think Mike Genovese was as strong as LaRocca or Gabriel Mannarino. Scarfo had to bend over and take it up the ass from some of the New York families and split gambling operations and other rackets with Decavalcantes in Jersey. Scarfo was a whack job, the Gotti of Philly. Stanfa would have had more discipline and was much more calculating and business minded. I consider Mike Genovese one of the great Mafia success stories, in that he completely got away with it and almost never went to prison. So he's like Accardo and Gambino and likely had tons of assets no one even knows about. Though you're right that Genovese couldn't have been as strong as LaRocca, since the generational attrition was really starting to kick in when Genovese took over. I disagree about your assessment of Scarfo's business/managerial skills though - by all accounts he was an activist boss who made tons of money for himself and his men. But yes his violent nature was his undoing.
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Re: ISO Forbes/fortune most recent richest US gangster
[Re: Atothej]
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01/15/12 03:06 PM
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Yo JCB, I kinda agree about Stanfa, I'm curious to see how his reign would have been if he hadn't had gone to war with the Merlino faction.
Oh, and Jimmy Lanza, did San Fran have a few crews on the street or what? That city never struck me as wiseguy oriented.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: ISO Forbes/fortune most recent richest US gangster
[Re: JCB1977]
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01/15/12 03:18 PM
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I agree that Scarfo was intelligent, but his paranoia caused many bad decisions that led to the downfall of his organization, which really has never recovered it's full power base. Genovese and LaRocca did run a tight ship, very successful reigns for a mafia boss. Pittsburgh in general had 3 bosses over a 50-60 year time period with Amato, LaRocca and Genovese. Another powerful mob boss who had a small family but reigned with peace and prosperity was Jimmy Lanza from San Francisco who lived tone 102. I think the smaller mob families from smaller cities had it made because it allowed for more political corruption without any competition. Much easier to corrupt the key political figures. The thing is Genovese could be lethal when he wanted to be. But he didn't use violence indiscriminately. The only exception to this I can thing of was when Lenny Strollo lost it and started having people shot right and left in 1996, but I get the feeling he did that w/o Genovese's approval. But where Genovese really excelled was in insulating himself. Because of his insulation, he died a zillionaire living in a mansion instead of dying in jail like Scarfo will. The "rape" of Youngstown, the flooding of Pittsburgh and the area around it with narcotics... Genovese both profited from and totally got away with all of that.
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