If I remember right, back in the big Gambino bust in 2008, it was said the administration as a whole got 10%. But, as said, it likely varies. I think I recall Castellano demanded 10% for himself.

ah is that how it works? so what does the captain get?

This is so true. Sometimes it's actually less work to just get a job .

A capo can also ask for a share, it depends on the person.

Being in the administration, or a top position is still lucrative. 10% might be a couple of million tax free dollars each year.

Another factor to keep in mind is though even the income of a mobster might seem like small potatoes compared to a lot of legitimate professions... it is actually pretty damn good money for high school dropouts. They would be uncompetitive in just about any other labor market situation, except for minimum wage type positions.

so is it ten percent for the admin or ten percent each? what if its a ruling panel? are they doing for free or what?

If train A leaves the station going 60 miles per hour and train B leaves one hour later going 85 miles per hour, how long will it take train B to catch up with train A?

one thing you have to keep in mind is that a lot of these guys have legitimate business that bring in a lot of money. from the capo regime down the some of the more established associates and soldiers, they have some very viable construction,trucking, real estate, pornography, staffing, restuarant business, etc. Some of us in Cleveland have real estate, staffing, construction businesses that bring in on the upwards of 50 million per year, when you're a capo kicking up 7.5 to 10%, in some cases 5%, that is a lot of money. If you family has 10 to 20 capos with viable legit businesses plus all the side money, it doesnt take long to add up. With the new york guys, I remember some of the guys saying that paul had some type of chicken slaughter distribution plant that was a major operation, others have car dealerships, those are 50 to 100 million a year ventures.

^^^ I've been saying this very same thing forever. Nobody cares. Nobody listens. If you don't have a legitimate business these days you won't do a damn thing.
I was about to say it one more time in this thread but decided to go with my train post instead. Meh.

a long time

There ya go. Here's a cookie. lol

Which was a very intellectual post. Very constructive and well thought.

Actually it was!

If people would only read more and post less, they'd find that the repetitive questions they keep asking are actually already answered multiple times on the board. Read more. Post less.

"Otherwise, it's just masturbation." ---- George Costanza

Aint that that truth!

Ya know, I just see all these questions and threads opened up and I know the answers are here; just requires using a search button. It takes all my restraint to not go off on people (plus I don't like sand, so there's that).
But whatever, I got PMS, I'm cranky, moody, bloated, my tits hurt. You know how it is, pizzaboy, no?

Yeah, I'm retaining a little water myself today. But then again, I drank three bottles of Riserva Ducale last night .

And you're right about the search feature. It's maddening to see the same threads over and over. But it's really no one's fault. You can't blame a new board member for not knowing about it.

if you add the legal or semi-legal earnings of the mob you'll get a lots more billions, it's not clear if the estimates of fbi include legitimate business among the earnings mob or illegal ones only

general attrition theory is valdi for small families like buffalo and others in new york the only cause is the rico and its effects (turncoats, heavy sentences, big busts etc.)
the mafia even today has not any lack of manpower in new york

LURK MOAR GUISE! Also, search function.



Yeah but compared to their size and strength 50, 40, even 30 years ago, attrition has had a very visible effect even on NY.

the downfall of ny family is because of rico law in the '80, i doubt general attrition has some faults in the downfall... still today whole district like staten island are over 50% italian

as of 2009, staten island was 35.7% italian (prob lower now)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staten_Island#Demographics

"Whites are the racial majority in Staten Island. Of the borough's 491,000 people, over 372,000 are white, which is over three-quarters (75.7%) of the population. Over 323,000 non-Hispanic whites reside in the borough, and they make up 65.8% of the population. The Caucasian population is largely Italian and Irish. Sizable communities of Germans, Russians, Albanians and Poles are present. There are over 175,000 Italian Americans living in Staten Island, and they make up over one-third (35.7%) of the population. Roughly 65,000 Irish Americans live in the borough, and they make up over one-eighth (13.2%) of the population. People of German, Russian, and Polish descent make up 5.7, 3.8, and 3.4% of the population, respectively."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Staten_Island

You've said that before, and people have disagreed before. Stick to Italy dude, at least you seem to know your shit there.

it was 40% and it's very big number since it's a whole district (450.000 or so)



i don't care who agrees or disagrees, i think the rico law is the principal cause by far in new york at least
and what are u talking about? you live in australia you know nothing about the states

And, as I've said before, there is also the general attrition of quality. Not just quantity.

OK, guys, let's stop World War III.

m2w, if somebody took the time to link the source of their information (as above) and you are arguing that the info is not true, would you please link YOUR source of information.

I know not to pull bullshit statistics out of my ass and have a sook when people call me on it.

Staten Island is still 44% Italian, the highest percentage of any county in the country

http://www.wikihow.com/Talk-Like-a-New-Yorker

^^wtf

your credibility is officially 0

Goddamn, thats the funniest thing Ive ever heard from you m2w. You do realise what you linked to right? You're going to use THAT as your source? And you have the nerve to bitch me out?

For the record, I think I'll go off the numbers gathered in the United States census, as cited on wikipedia, rather the wikihow page on "How To Talk Like A New Yorker" (that doesn't offer a single citation, I might add.)

I noticed how you tweaked your claim from "Over 50%" to "44%" Still wrong, but closer.