was wondering about organized crime in the uk.ive heard of the adams family and other groups referred to as firms. was looking for a little info such as size of the groups, territory ect. thanks.

the camorra had money laundering operations in aberdeen. we have triads russians but nothing which is very big. we dont kind of have a gangland culture like the usa

the camorra had money laundering operations in aberdeen. we have triads russians but nothing which is very big. we dont kind of have a gangland culture like the usa

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jul/13/uk-criminals-organised-crime


Between 25,000 to 30,000 criminals are involved in the "long tail" of a serious organised crime business in Britain that is worth more than £30bn a year, according to a study published today.

The home secretary, Alan Johnson, has endorsed a renewed drive to use tax powers to target organised criminals, taking even stronger powers to seize their assets, and shut down front organisations such as saunas and massage parlours.

The joint report, by the Cabinet Office's strategy unit and the Home Office, warns of an explosion in new types of crime as a result of the recession, with sharp increases recorded this year in the counterfeit goods trade, "phishing" – taking over other people's bank accounts – and other types of financial fraud.

The study does not directly criticise the performance of the beleaguered serious organised crime agency, but it does say much tighter oversight is needed by ministers to keep a grip on the problem.

The Home Office plans create a new strategic centre for organised crime to ensure that clear roles are laid down for tackling drug trafficking, organised immigration crime, and organised fraud. Further action will be taken next summer if a more aggressive approach is not achieved.

At the same time the capacity of the police is to be boosted by a further four regional asset-recovery teams to complete the network across England and Wales. Each will have its own tax inspector, and the Home Office is to extend the teams' legal powers to "reverse the burden of proof" in civil recovery cases, to make it easier to seize the assets of those involved in organised crime.

The data was published as another Home Office study called into question the credibility of Britain's controls to curb people-trafficking. The research, based on interviews with 45 convicted people-smugglers, showed that most thought Britain was a soft touch, with a low risk of detection and a market that conferred healthy profits. Many of those surveyed did, however, express surprise at the severity of the sentences they had received.

Terry Adams is the big power in London.

I read somewhere that there is a powerful organized crime figure in Nottingham nicknamed "The Taxman", a millionaire who is a business associate of Wayne Hardy, Dave Francis and the Dawes Cartel. Does anybody know what his real name is?

Theres a Taxman in Middlesbourgh - Brian Cockerill.
But he's more of a tough guy enforcer than an actual gangster.
He must be nearing 50 now anyway

No, this one must be someone else. The Taxman i have read about was mentioned in connection with the Gunn brothers from Nottingham in extracts from the book "Hoods: The Gangs of Nottingham - A Study in Organized Crime" by Carl Fellstrom.

there was a guy named viv graham in newcastle

He was shot to death years ago. We have a big gangland/villain culture up here in Newcastle. The main man at present is a chap called John Henry Sayers, who the police are after big style. He has several brothers and many associates and if you have any sense you don't cross his path!

yeah Terry Adams is the big guy down there... much feared and respected ...his brother patsy is one bad dude that you really hope you don't see.. or its your ass (usually) - Jamie Daniels from Glasgow area is also a real scary guy who is the big guy up here ...

what is a Geordie? ive heard different things such as a gangstar, someone who supports a local football team or just used to describe a person from that region of england. set me strait.

A geordie is somebody from the city of Newcastle and its surrounding area. Various areas of the UK have such names!

Scousers come from Liverpool

Cockneys are from London


Geordies like to drink beer, watch football and fight...so we are just a step up from cavemen really

I have met many my friend ...I prefer people from the north of England, they seem to be much more friendly than the south

Well said mate. As a Geordie of Scottish ancestry you will do for me

I know its not current/in the same vein as the other posts, but I always found the Krays to be pretty interesting.

Also, going back a bit further, Darby Sabini and the Sabini family. Of mixed Italian/English ancestry, they, along with the Messina family, are probably the closest London ever got to a homegrown mafia style crime family that was actually Italian.

yh im from newcastle and my friends dad was going to meet viv graham at a pub at new year eve but he never came cos gt shot by shotgun i believe

thanks for the responses guys. sure i could have typed it into google but getting answers from real people that live over there beats some shitty wiki articles or something similar.

One thing that's always interested me about Britain was the theft of the Marlborough diamond by a Chicago soldier, Jerry Scalise. The wiseguy has a very similar name to my own and him being a wiseguy outside of Chicago, let a lone the U.S. that and robbing a museum is something that always caught my attention.

http://youtu.be/Kh0pT18OFsw

for anyone that hasnt seen this, its the story of lee muuray, former professional fighter from london who is believed to be the mastermind behind the largest cash robbery in the history of the world, somewhere around $92 million, so much cash that they ran out of room on the truck and were only able to get away with a portion of the cash. i know that he had ties to street gangs in his youth but i was also wondering if anyone was aware of any org crime links?

They never found that diamond. I've heard a theory that it was recut into a bunch of smaller diamonds so that it would be impossible to trace. (Which makes sense - seriously, how else would you fence the damn thing?)

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Paul Ferris's books are a good read.

Then theres Curtis "Cocky" Warren aswell.

Also currently active is the Noonan family that reigns over Manchester. Were the subject of a documentary in 2006 - A Very British Gangster (or MacIntyre's Underworld)...

Can anyone find any decent documentaries on Glasgow Gangland ?.

Donal MacIntyre seems to be involved with some of those documentaries also but the ones on youtube are poor quality and hard to follow.

Heres a documentary on Curtis "Cocky" Warren.

Curtis "Cocky" Warren Documentary

It was a .357 Magnum

ah right. i hear it was a shotgun from my mate. what rackets was he in to?

https://rapidshare.com/files/3476677425/BritainsunderworldGlasgow.avi
https://rapidshare.com/files/3574734596/MurdercapitalGlasgowganglandkillings.avi

I haven't watched them yet though, so I don't know if they are interesting enough.

I recommend anyone here interested in the British gangster scene to watch the film "Rise of the Footsoldier" its a true story of the Essex underworld in the 1990s, very raw violent film def worth a watch!