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Best monologue in The Godfather?
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Jack Woltz's monologue to Tom Hagen at the dinner table...
John Marley delivered those lines superbly...his "cement mixer" voice, and brash demeanor came across all too effectively...He defied the role of the rich, cocky, millionare... every line in that monologue was delivered with pure contempt and effectiveness...
He got in to character so well that you can't imagine him acting much differently in real life...The tale of betrayal he talks about appears to have truly effected and angered him...he makes his disdain of Johnny Fontane all too believable...
"I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on her, I was gonna make her a big STARR!! and let me be even MORE frank..."
Incredible
"...and then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive oil voice, and guinea charm..."
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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01/28/04 08:05 PM
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Are we talking GFI or are we talking about all three? Because to me, the best one of the bunch is the "this is the business we've chosen" speech by Roth.
"Leave the gun. Take the cannolis."
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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01/28/04 11:34 PM
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Cannoli, agreed with the Roth monologue...
"I didn't ASK...who gave the order!"
excellent delivery as well...
"...and then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive oil voice, and guinea charm..."
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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I, too, am going to go with Brando's speech at the five families meeting; but also Brando's "I never wanted this for you" speech to Michael in the garden. Awesomely executed and superbly dished out. What a delivery.
Though, the best acting in the entire trilogy, AND that I've ever seen on camera in any movie is most definately Fredo's "I'm smart" scene in The Godfather, Part II. His facial expression, the way he's shaking, his motions, his voice. You can feel his pain, his hurt... How he feels he was betrayed. You can feel how he just wanted to get some credit and recognition, but most of all you feel his remorse and regret. Powerful, emotional, and captivating. I can't help but get teary eyed and choked up everytime I see it.
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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Anthony, I agree with your observations about John Cazale's acting in II. It was great. And that scene in particular. The most brilliant part of ALL of it is that after he'd vented to Michael, and after Michael disowns him (so to speak), he sighs and calls out, "Mikey." And it is just so SAD.
Fredo just didn't get it.
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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Yes. Vito's garden talk about universal aspirations that a man has for his son.
"A refusal is not the act of a friend"
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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That was a good monologue, although delivered very laid back and calmly by Brando, which obvioulsy fits the Godfather's character. I would choose Marley's monologue over it though, because of the precise and agressive delivery...It was more emphatic...
"...and then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive oil voice, and guinea charm..."
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: I'll agree with those who've mentioned Vito's 'I never wanted this for you...' to Michael.
Laid back? Yeah...sure. But like you say in keeping with the character but oh, so much more than that. It WAS brilliantly delivered by Brando, and you felt every word of it as if it were your own family he was talking about.
Marley as Woltz was fine. But loud...as well as 'precise and aggressive'...doesn't necessarily equal brilliance.
Or even approach it.
Apple I think Marley as Woltz, in his brief scenes, gave a good indication of the character of Woltz, with his performance. He went from insulting Hagen, to welcoming him to his home for dinner, with a tour of the grounds, to erupting at him and throwing him out before dessert 
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: I have no problem with the portrayal of Woltz by Mr. Marley. Nor with his final monologue before throwing Tom out of the house. Both are excellent.
However the subject line...in the form of a question by the way...was as to the best monologue in the movie. (The Godfather to be exact, not GFII or GFIII)
And I still agree that for depth, poignancy and sheer acting genius...none matches that last one of Vito's to Michael in the garden.
Apple Apple, I hope I didn't give the impression that I thought Woltz's monologue, before he threw out Hagen was the best. I was merely trying to say, that taken as a whole, Marley gave a convincing portrayl of a dubious Hollywood producer, or was he a director ? 
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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I look at it like this...
As far as meaningful and deep content goes, Woltz's monolgue did not have any...He did not say anything profound, its more about WHAT he said and HOW he said it accompanied with his facial and body mannerisms....It was very well acted...It was more along the lines of one of those memorable movie scenes that stands out considering following that speech of his was perhaps one of the most famous movie scenes of all time...That monologue was in its own right, very defining of what kind of man Jack Woltz was and the way he sort of takes out his disdain for Fontaine on Hagen was evident...I can't argue that this was the greatest monologue because it is open for speculation...I am stating why I think it was a great one...Wether or not it was the greatest, I don't think it can be argued that it was the most emphatic monologue in The Godfather...
"...and then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive oil voice, and guinea charm..."
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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Originally posted by greekgirl: My favorite is in the very beginning of G1, when the Don chides the undertaker for asking for a favor, without showing respect or friendship in the past. "bona sera, bona sera, what have I done that you should treat me so disrespectful?", etc, etc. Brando's just great here. yeah i agree with u on this one, its 2 one of my favorites.
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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The scene in GFI where Michael proposes to Sonny, Hagen, Clelenza, and Tessio that he be the one to go to the Sollozzo meeting and kill both him and McCluskey.
"...if Clemenza ...can find a way to plant a weapon...then I'll kill them both."
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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I love the speech at the Commission meeting by Vito, though its not my favorite. I would have to say the one that ment the most to me was by Robert DeNiro when hes in his apartment with Tessio and Clemenza and explains how Fanucci had come to him asking for money. This is where he in my mind he starts to become the Godfather. Before he would listen to Clemenza and Tessio but here he takes over. Very much like how Michael gives that speech in the first one about killing Sollozzo and McClusky. These two scenes are great and are the stepping stones into why these two were such great Dons.
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Re: Best monologue in The Godfather?
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03/26/04 08:36 PM
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Quoting Anthony Lombardi
"Though, the best acting in the entire trilogy, AND that I've ever seen on camera in any movie is most definately Fredo's "I'm smart" scene in The Godfather, Part II. His facial expression, the way he's shaking, his motions, his voice. You can feel his pain, his hurt... How he feels he was betrayed. You can feel how he just wanted to get some credit and recognition, but most of all you feel his remorse and regret. Powerful, emotional, and captivating. I can't help but get teary eyed and choked up everytime I see it."
You might be interested to know that the bouncy chair that Cazale was sitting in had an important role to play in the brilliance of that scene. In the GFII DVD FFC says that the chair helped a lot with how he wanted Cazale to act that scene out.
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