Can we please stop playing it up like Ozzie's gonna get fired?! Yes, there were stupid remarks but I would actually be shocked if he got fired. He'll apologize and we'll ALL move on.
Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: Mark]
#643296 04/10/1204:35 PM04/10/1204:35 PM
Can we please stop playing it up like Ozzie's gonna get fired?! Yes, there were stupid remarks but I would actually be shocked if he got fired. He'll apologize and we'll ALL move on.
agree, stupid remark that he said...he said 'sorry'. forgive, forget and move on.
Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: Mark]
#643313 04/10/1206:33 PM04/10/1206:33 PM
Like I said, he wouldn't get fired. He got his 5 game suspension, he'll abide by it and move on. Stupid remark, but sometimes you have to consider the source. And in this case, I'm not too surprised by it.
Aaron Harang of the Dodgers struck out the first nine batters he faced Friday night against the Padres, one short of Tom Seaver's record of 10 in 1972.
Brian Wilson of the Giants apparently will need surgery and possibly miss the remainder of the season.
Friday night the Nationals' Jayson Werth did something in a major league game, which had never previosly been done in my life: he had a game-ending RBI hit in the 13th inning on Friday, the 13th. The last time that happened was in 1963 when Willie Stargell blasted a triple to beat the Giants, 5-4.
That must have been Stargell's rookie year because I remember him well throughout the 70s. I believe he had more homers in the 70s than any other player.
Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: klydon1]
#644099 04/16/1202:40 PM04/16/1202:40 PM
In last night's Phillies/Giants game Cliff Lee threw 10 shutout innings. The last pitcher to throw 10 scoreless frames in a game was Mark Mulder of the 2005 Cardinals. The last Phillie pitcher to throw 10 scoreless innings in a game was Steve Carlton in 1981.
The most remarkable aspect of Lee's outing was that 81 of his 102 pitches were strikes.
Also, Bartolo Colon was equally on target last night. In the six scoreless innings he tossed, he threw 108 pitches, of which 82 were strikes. He also threw 38 consecutive pitches for strikes.
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Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: klydon1]
#644513 04/19/1207:29 AM04/19/1207:29 AM
I bet Lee's performance bought a smile to your face Klyd?
I'd have smiled a lot more if the Phillies could have scored a damn run and won the game. It was the first time since Bret Saberhagen in 1994 when a pitcher threw 10 scoreless innings and his team lost.
Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: klydon1]
#644526 04/19/1208:10 AM04/19/1208:10 AM
Unfortunately for Lee, he ran against Matt Cain, who is living up to his new contract, and one of the best bullpens in baseball. Tough loss Klyd, I'm more relieved than happy that I'm on the other end
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
Unfortunately for Lee, he ran against Matt Cain, who is living up to his new contract, and one of the best bullpens in baseball. Tough loss Klyd, I'm more relieved than happy that I'm on the other end
any chance the cubs can have san frans bullpen?
Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: Mark]
#644757 04/21/1208:56 PM04/21/1208:56 PM
You know, I don't follow baseball like I used to. I can remember the days when a 20+ game winner was not that uncommon. So, what is the typical number of games that the top NL and AL pitchers win in a season these days?
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Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: olivant]
#644758 04/21/1209:04 PM04/21/1209:04 PM
You know, I don't follow baseball like I used to. I can remember the days when a nearly 30 game winner was not that uncommon.
You're not that old, oli. The last pitcher to win 30 was Denny McLain in 1968 and before him I think it was in the 1930s. A 25 game winner was quite good through that period, and it is still a benchmark to a great season. I think THE domineering pitcher of our lifetime was Sandy Koufax (in the '60s).
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Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: SC]
#644780 04/22/1204:33 AM04/22/1204:33 AM
The baseball world is more about sabermetrics these days. Look at Felix Hernandez winning a Cy Young Award with a record of 13-12. It makes me wonder how many pitchers might have won Cy Young Awards based on performance and not won/loss records in the past if the emphasis was less about the win total.
I don't believe wins are worthless, but they certainly shouldn't be the defining factor in what makes a pitcher the best during any given season. 30 wins is extremely impressive, but someone like Nolan Ryan, who is considered one of the most dominating pitchers in baseball history, doesn't have a very good won/loss record.
You can't blame a stellar pitcher for having bad run support.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
I don't believe wins are worthless, but they certainly shouldn't be the defining factor in what makes a pitcher the best during any given season. 30 wins is extremely impressive, but someone like Nolan Ryan, who is considered one of the most dominating pitchers in baseball history, doesn't have a very good won/loss record.
You can't blame a stellar pitcher for having bad run support.
Good point.
Whitey Ford, certainly a better than average pitcher from the '50s/'60s for the NY Yankees had an unbelievable 25-4 season in 1961. That Yankee team was arguably the best team ever fielded. Would Ford have been as impressive if he played for a lesser team then? Ford's ERA was well over 3.00 .... all he had to do was give up 3 or 4 runs and his hitters would go out and knock in 6 or 7 of their own. He gets the win.
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Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: SC]
#644792 04/22/1209:33 AM04/22/1209:33 AM
I don't believe wins are worthless, but they certainly shouldn't be the defining factor in what makes a pitcher the best during any given season. 30 wins is extremely impressive, but someone like Nolan Ryan, who is considered one of the most dominating pitchers in baseball history, doesn't have a very good won/loss record.
You can't blame a stellar pitcher for having bad run support.
Good point.
Whitey Ford, certainly a better than average pitcher from the '50s/'60s for the NY Yankees had an unbelievable 25-4 season in 1961. That Yankee team was arguably the best team ever fielded. Would Ford have been as impressive if he played for a lesser team then? Ford's ERA was well over 3.00 .... all he had to do was give up 3 or 4 runs and his hitters would go out and knock in 6 or 7 of their own. He gets the win.
Jack Morris is one of the ultimate examples of this.
Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: Mark]
#646054 05/04/1207:31 AM05/04/1207:31 AM
Brandon Morrow pitched a three-hit shutout as the Blue Jays beat the Angels 3-0. The worry coming into the season was who would step up in the rotation aside from Ricky Romero, but Morrow, Henderson Alvarez and Kyle Drabek have all pitched quite well so far. It's the offense and slow starts by Jose Bautista and Adam Lind that are the main concern. However, the play of Edwin Encarnacion (9 HR) has helped offset some of that.
Re: 2012 MLB Season
[Re: Mark]
#646538 05/08/1210:52 AM05/08/1210:52 AM
Cole Hamels was suspended five games and fined a staggering $460,000 not for hitting Bryce Harper with a pitch, but for admitting that he did so intentionally...even though the whole world knew it was intentional. In fact, when Harper stepped into the batter's box, I told my wife and kids he was going to get plunked. And I knew Hamels was going to get hit in his at bat.
I figured a suspension was coming, but the fine is silly. Baseball players, especially in the National League, have historically done a better job policing on-field issues than the league or even the umpires. Neither team had a problem with the beanings. There was no head hunting.
Harper was 18 when he played here in Harrisburg last summer, and while his talent is undeniable, he is a first class jerk, who stood at home plate blowing kisses at the pitcher after hitting a homerun...with his team trailing.