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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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Where's his indignation about prescription coverage for Cialis and Viagra?? Isn't that paying a MAN to have sex?? Or is that OK?? Not to mention that he's a pillhead himself.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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Where's his indignation about prescription coverage for Cialis and Viagra?? Isn't that paying a MAN to have sex?? Or is that OK?? Oh, that's totally different. It'd be a necessity for a man. The little woman's place is in the kitchen and serving her master. He's such a big POS. TIS
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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I don't like Limbaugh and never have. He's a self-admitted water-carrying hack for the Republican Party. But that said... Sandra Fluke is Wrong in Contraceptive Debacle, Rush Limbaugh is Right By Kayleigh McEnany March 2, 2012When Georgetown University Law student Sandra Fluke spoke out against Georgetown's contraception policy before Congress, arguing that birth control should be covered by health insurance and religious institutions, Rush Limbaugh countered with a generous proposition: "I will buy all of the women at Georgetown University as much aspirin to put between their knees as they want." This was Limbaugh's way of offering to pay for the "birth control" Fluke wants the government to force Catholic Jesuits to pay for, despite knowing it is against Catholic doctrine and deliberately choosing to attend a Catholic university. Limbaugh's solution is straightforward and, let's be honest, an age-old nugget of advice passed on from mothers to daughters; it's the kind of absurd response that Fluke's testimony before a faux congressional committee merited. I am a graduate of Georgetown University, and, like Fluke, I, too, have been accepted to their law school. But I take a much more sober view of the campus. While walking the dignified grounds of Georgetown, I saw what anyone would see on a typical college campus: students with the dreaded-exam-coming-up face, students with the hung-over nausea of having "one too many" the night before, and I saw teachers with the I-don't-feel-like-grading-any-of-this face. But I definitely didn't see: "The faces of the women affected by this lack of contraception coverage" who have "suffered financially, emotionally, medically," as Fluke alleges. Fluke must occupy the "one too many" category, for she paints a picture of Georgetown that can only be found deep in the corner of the "Introduction to Women's and Gender Studies" class, where all men are predators, and "no means no," but a liberated woman only says "yes." Before this pretend congressional committee and the plastic Joker-grin of Nancy Pelosi, Fluke recounted the rare incidences of women needing birth control for medical reasons, as if that's the norm. She then twisted this into a justification for why religious institutions should subsidize women who want to have rampant sex without consequences. According to Fluke, 40 percent of women at Georgetown struggle with $3,000 contraception bills over the course of law school. Three grand! That's a condom for breakfast, lunch and dinner sex every day for three consecutive years! Assuming Fluke is the liberated woman she claims to be, it's amazing she had enough time to saunter out of her bedchamber and come to Congress. In a sane world, Fluke would have earned the ire of the liberal media and feminists for portraying women as helpless wards of the state who have no choice but to submit to men. But this world is not sane, so all guns blazed at the all-knowing, all-feeling, all-seeing, all-everything Maha Rushie. What did Limbaugh do other than state the obvious? He said: "Well, what would you call someone who wants us to pay for her to have sex? What would you call that woman? You'd call 'em a slut, a prostitute or whatever." I'd like to supplement Limbaugh's analysis with a few additional descriptions. Fluke is impractical, foolish, and a disgrace to Georgetown. Plus, she has deliberately glossed over the implications of her demands. If the government forces Catholic institutions to provide contraception against their doctrine, not only are we trampling on religious liberty, but we're opening the door for all sorts of tomfoolery. Are the Jesuits then obliged to provide pot to distraught, empty-pocketed stoners, vibrators to lonely females, or porn to the sex-crazed teenage boy? Where does it stop? And do her male partners bear no responsibility, or do we have to pay for her cab home, too? When we demand religious institutions provide coverage of contraception, abortion and sterilization as the Obamacare mandate does, we trivialize what it means to suffer "financially, emotionally, medically." And if we compel insurance companies to supply recreational items like contraception, how can we not make them foot the bill for medically necessitated items like Band-Aids, Neosporin, tampons, pads, and the like? All of this will be sorted out, likely by the Supreme Court, which will hopefully rule the First Amendment is a law higher than Obama's. But until they decide, I worry that Fluke will continue to fret about who'll pay for her birth control. The good news is, until she's out of Georgetown, she can take the harmless, loveable little fuzz ball up on his offer of birth control aspirin. But wait, what am I thinking? Fluke must have plenty of aspirin on hand. After all, she's obviously never told a man: "Not tonight. I have a headache." Kayleigh McEnany is a writer and political activist who graduated from the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service and studied at Oxford University. She is the founder of www.RealReaganConservative.com. She writes every Tuesday for the International Business Times. http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/308187/2...-georgetown.htm
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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03/03/12 12:37 PM
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There are ways to make points about the proper role of mandates or what should be included in basic health care without calling people sluts, whores or prostitutes or going off on jihads against the social changes of the past 50 years. That's exactly right, Lilo. Limbaugh is a buffoon and a misogynist, but we already knew that. Hell, his fanbase already knows this, and they love him for it. I say don't play into his trap. He's LOVING this. I think the original point of this thread was Rush's name calling, etc. Not whether or not this woman's point of view on free contraception is right or wrong. But to play Devil's Advocate about her stance on the matter, I'll openly state that I think she's wrong on this one. I mean, why choose a Catholic school if these are your beliefs? If you're an Islamophobe, would you choose Al-Azhar University as a place to pursue higher education? If you're an anti-Semite, would you go live on a Kibbutz? You can't tell me that---at least subconsciously---she didn't have this soapbox/fifteen minutes of fame on her mind.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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03/03/12 01:26 PM
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I mean, why choose a Catholic school if these are your beliefs?
That's like assuming every Notre Dame football player is Catholic, or that everybody that goes to Ivy League schools are Yankees. Or that every Republican is a Bible-humper. Or that anybody can only belong to what would publicly be conceived as their safe comfort zone. No No No No. Besides Georgetown doesn't provide contraceptives in its health care coverage. Let's not forget that nugget of truth. Lilo is right about the story getting lost for the GOP. David Frum tweeted something better than my 1000 words can. Yesterday's topic: legitimate rights of RC church. Today's topic: calling women "sluts." Good job Rush.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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or that everybody that goes to Ivy League schools are Yankees. Well, they're certainly not for people from Tennessee, where the educational ceiling is usually, "do you want fries with that?"
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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Well, they're certainly not for people from Tennessee, where the educational ceiling is usually, "do you want fries with that?"
HA! So true. Well except for the state's elite offspring. (I had more in mind Texas' Dubya.) And you've known me for six years, so you KNOW I'm just fucking with you. Plus, I know you're originally a Broward County kid, which is mostly Yankees anyway  .
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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The underlying point here is that people today have been told they have certain "rights." And heaven forbid if a church, or an institution, or a government deprive them of these so called "rights." Everything should be bent or changed or altered to accommodate them. And don't you dare disagree with them because, in doing so, you are against them having their "rights." And, yes, Limbaugh is a buffoon. As is Hannity. I even think Glen Beck gets carried away a lot. Of course, none of them come close to Michael Savage.  From a conservative point of view, the talk show I'd suggest is Michael Medved. I'm a conservative but I don't watch Fox News. I don't like the idea of people trying to spoon feed me something. Of course, I don't watch MSNBC either because they're doing the same thing from the other end. Even though they lean a little to the left, I watch CNN the most because they're closest to being right in the middle; i.e. balanced and with as little of an agenda as possible.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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Fox news just reported that Rush apologized for remarks about that young woman. Good for Rush.. His comments were inappropriate because they were premature. If he had waited until she graduated law school and passed the bar exam, then his insults would have had an appropriate basis. Plus, she could have sued him.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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Fox news just reported that Rush apologized for remarks about that young woman. Good for Rush.. His comments were inappropriate because they were premature. If he had waited until she graduated law school and passed the bar exam, then his insults would have had an appropriate basis. Plus, she could have sued him. Bingo.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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There are ways to make points about the proper role of mandates or what should be included in basic health care without calling people sluts, whores or prostitutes or going off on jihads against the social changes of the past 50 years. That's exactly right, Lilo. Limbaugh is a buffoon and a misogynist, but we already knew that. Hell, his fanbase already knows this, and they love him for it. I say don't play into his trap. He's LOVING this. I think the original point of this thread was Rush's name calling, etc. Not whether or not this woman's point of view on free contraception is right or wrong. But to play Devil's Advocate about her stance on the matter, I'll openly state that I think she's wrong on this one. I mean, why choose a Catholic school if these are your beliefs? If you're an Islamophobe, would you choose Al-Azhar University as a place to pursue higher education? If you're an anti-Semite, would you go live on a Kibbutz? You can't tell me that---at least subconsciously---she didn't have this soapbox/fifteen minutes of fame on her mind. Fluke definitely has an agenda and motivation. Not saying anything's wrong with that...I just probably disagree with it more often than not.. As you know I like the writer Steve Barnes. One of Barnes's mentors/friends and a man who is politically miles apart from Barnes and light years away from myself is the sci-fi writer Jerry Pournelle who wrote this about the Georgetown/Fluke flare up. If the Republicans had been able to just keep it on this level they may have won. There's a good argument to be made about the balance of private/public choices, who pays for them and how strong religious exemptions should be. But as the Georgetown President, who disagrees with Fluke's position, pointed out we all lose something when discourse becomes degraded. It's finally been shown that if enough people push hard enough Limbaugh will back down. As Vito might say that is useful information to be stored away for later... 
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Re: Rush Limbaugh insults law student
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03/04/12 08:49 PM
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I've not heard Rush's "apology," though some called it half-hearted, insincere, and I don't know (or care honestly) if it really was or not. That said, apparently some sponsors agree because he lost a few more today. Peggy Noonan called him a "pig,"  and Cantor was alot more harsh in his rhetoric against Rush compared to Boehner or Santorum. George Will: "Mr. Boehner comes out and says, Rush's language was inappropriate. Using a salad fork for your entree, that's inappropriate. Not this stuff. I mean, and Rick Santorum says well, what he says was absurd, but an entertainer is allowed to be absurd. No. It is the responsibility of conservatives to police the right in its excesses, just as the liberals unfailingly fail to police the excesses in their own side. And it was depressing, because what it indicates is that the Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh. They want to bomb Iran, but they're afraid of Rush Limbaugh," That last line is so MF true. But Rush will survive this, but the GOP as a whole took a hit because of him. And I'm sure they'll do it again sometime down the road.
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