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Re: mafia's drug sales
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I may have posted this before. It's a list by year of LCN busts that included narcotics charges and what family/drugs were involved.
June 2000 Bonanno Family - marijuana
November 2000 Lucchese Family - cocaine
December 2000 Gambino Family - heroin
February 2001 Colombo Family - marijuana, ecstasy
March 2001 Lucchese Family - cocaine
April 2001 Genovese Family - drug trafficking
October 2001 Bonanno Family - cocaine
December 2001 Lucchese Family - ecstasy
January 2002 Gambino Family - cocaine
March 2002 Bonanno Family - cocaine
November 2002 Lucchese Family - cocaine, marijuana, vicodin
November 2002 Bonanno Family - cocaine
December 2002 Bonanno/Lucchese Family - drug trafficking
January 2003 Gambino Family - marijuana
April 2003 Gambino Family - crystal meth, ecstasy, cocaine, marijuana, steroids, vicodin, valium
June 2003 Genovese Family - cocaine
October 2003 Colombo/Bonanno Family - marijuana
January 2004 Bonanno Family - marijuana, ecstasy
December 2004 Genovese/Lucchese/Bonanno Family - cocaine Gambino Family - cocaine
January 2005 Bonanno Family - heroin, crack cocaine
February 2005 Bonanno Family - drug trafficking
March 2005 Genovese Family - oxycontin, ecstasy, marijuana Genovese Family - cocaine
May 2005 Gambino Family - prescription drugs
January 2006 Bonanno Family - drug trafficking
February 2006 Genovese Family - cocaine, anabolic steroids Genovese Family - cocaine, marijuana
March 2006 Gambino Family - marijuana
May 2006 Gambino Family - drug trafficking
June 2006 Bonanno Family - marijuana, ecstasy Genovese Family - cocaine
September 2006 Bonanno Family - marijuana
October 2006 Gambino Family - marijuana
December 2006 Colombo Family - cocaine, marijuana
February 2007 Bonanno Family - drug trafficking
March 2007 Gambino Family - vicodin
May 2007 Gambino Family - steroids
December 2007 Lucchese Family - heroin Genovese Family - drug trafficking
February 2008 Gambino Family - cocaine, marijuana Lucchese Family - marijuana Genovese Family - cocaine
March 2008 Genovese Family - cocaine, crack, marijuana, prescription drugs
June 2008 Colombo Family - marijuana, cocaine
August 2008 Gambino Family - cocaine Bonanno Family - drug trafficking
September 2008 Genovese Family - cocaine
November 2008 Lucchese Family - cocaine
February 2009 Genovese Family - cocaine, crack Bonanno Family - marijuana
May 2009 Bonanno Family - oxycodone, hydrocone
September 2009 Lucchese Family - painkiller narcotics
October 2009 Bonanno Family - marijuana
December 2009 Colombo Family - marijuana
February 2010 Gambino Family - oxycodone Gambino Family - marijuana
April 2010 Genovese Family - drug trafficking Gambino Family - cocaine, oxycontin, marijuana
January 2011 Colombo Family - marijuana Gambino Family - cocaine, marijuana, ecstasy
March 2011 Bonanno Family - marijuana, steroids Lucchese Family - oxycodone
June 2011 Gambino Family - oxycodone
August 2011 Gambino Family - marijuana, cocaine Bonanno Family - cocaine
December 2011 Colombo Family - prescription drugs
January 2012 Bonanno Family - marijuana
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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03/05/12 09:23 PM
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In the States, weed and XTC. Prescription pills and steroids in New York/suburban Staten Island.
Only the Italian-Italians have contacts with Mexican cartels, i.e. cocaine shipments to Europe. I doubt there's American wiseguys with contacts and access to Mexican cartel members.
Grow houses in New York for weed however are big.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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In the States, weed and XTC. Prescription pills and steroids in New York/suburban Staten Island.
Only the Italian-Italians have contacts with Mexican cartels, i.e. cocaine shipments to Europe. I doubt there's American wiseguys with contacts and access to Mexican cartel members.
Grow houses in New York for weed however are big. pretty much spot on man. xtc doesnt seem to be nearly as big in the northeast as it was in the 90's. oxycodone is literally all over the place over here as well as the pot but ive heard its very expensive  , not like in cali
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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California and the marijuana thing we've got goin' on here....
...damn we abused it. Feds shut down most of the marijuana clinics after most of the 'patients' were 19 year old pothead kids. Though it's hopeful that California's system will influence the eventual legalization of marijuana.
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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Here's the cases that included drug charges involving other families -
April 2000 Chicago Family - cocaine
June 2000 Buffalo/Rochester Family - cocaine
March 2001 Philadelphia Family - drug trafficking
June 2001 Kansas City Family - ecstasy, cocaine
October 2001 New England Family - drug trafficking
April 2002 Chicago Family - marijuana
May 2002 Buffalo Family - drug trafficking
September 2002 New England Family - cocaine, marijuana
December 2002 New England Family - drug trafficking
May 2003 Philadelphia Family - cocaine
January 2004 Tampa Family - marijuana
January 2005 New England Family - cocaine
February 2005 New England Family - prescription drugs NE PA Family - drug trafficking
January 2006 New England Family - marijuana, vicodin
June 2006 Buffalo Family - cocaine
October 2006 Philadelphia Family - steroids
November 2006 Philadelphia Family - cocaine
December 2006 New England Family - marijuana, steroids, and vicodin
August 2007 New England Family - heroin
July 2008 Philadelphia Family - drug trafficking
September 2008 Philadelphia Family - crystal meth
November 2009 New England Family - cocaine, marijuana, vicodin
February 2009 New England Family - marijuana
March 2009 Kansas City Family - meth
May 2010 New England Family - heroin
October 2010 New England Family - heroin, marijuana
November 2010 New England Family - oxycontin, oxycodone, percocet, vicodin
April 2011 Philadelphia Family - prescription medications
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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The 2009 DEA report said the American LCN was increasingly working with Mexican DTO's, which are basically extensions of the cartels in Mexico. Whether it be other Italians, the Colombians, Dominicans, or Mexicans, the American LCN guys have to get their cocaine from somewhere.
Thanks for the list you provided in the next post, fucking incredible information. Surprised to see the stuff on Buffalo, KC and the smaller families. It's surprising to see Italian-American wiseguys working with Mexican cartels, simply because of geography of comfortable territory. Though Mexican cartels are eager to operate over the entire United States, so them in New York or the Greater Northeast is not surprising.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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Here's the cases that included drug charges involving other families -
April 2000 Chicago Family - cocaine
June 2000 Buffalo/Rochester Family - cocaine
June 2001 Kansas City Family - ecstasy, cocaine
April 2002 Chicago Family - marijuana
May 2002 Buffalo Family - drug trafficking
January 2004 Tampa Family - marijuana
February 2005 NE PA Family - drug trafficking
June 2006 Buffalo Family - cocaine
March 2009 Kansas City Family - meth
Very, very interesting.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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03/05/12 11:24 PM
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Thanks for the list you provided in the next post, fucking incredible information. Surprised to see the stuff on Buffalo, KC and the smaller families.
It's surprising to see Italian-American wiseguys working with Mexican cartels, simply because of geography of comfortable territory. Though Mexican cartels are eager to operate over the entire United States, so them in New York or the Greater Northeast is not surprising.
I think that's basically the reason, i.e. the Mexicans have been expanding into the northeast in recent years. They're the dominant drug trafficking group in the rest of the country already. The northeast was the last region where the Colombians still supplied most of the cocaine. And there is more competition from Asians, Cubans, Dominicans, Italians, etc.
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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What I found so interesting about that list you provided were the smaller families...glorified crews that were big into drugs
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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What I found so interesting about that list you provided were the smaller families...glorified crews that were big into drugs Though obviously not as big of an income producer for them as gambling, drugs to seem to be a staple for the New England and Philadelphia families. Not so much the case with New Jersey or Chicago. As for the others, I don't know if I would say they were "big" into drugs. Well, the Trafficante operation had smuggled $80 million worth of marijuana from Mexico but that was over a 15 year period.
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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Yeah, but Buffalo, Rochester, Kansas City and NE Pennsylvania.
Those families are often called extinct.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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03/06/12 12:59 AM
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They are, for all intents and purposes. In these places you had remnants of these families (i.e. individual members) involved. For instance, the Buffalo/Rochester case in June 2000 involved Thomas Marotta. The June 2006 case involved 11 people, of which 1 (Leonard Mordino) was a Buffalo LCN associate.
Geez...mafia whiz kid. You're a savant of LCN history. Though those drug pinches were signs of a viable existence, particularly in how recent the Buffalo one and in particular the KC bust
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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Geez...mafia whiz kid. You're a savant of LCN history.
Though those drug pinches were signs of a viable existence, particularly in how recent the Buffalo one and in particular the KC bust
When I use the term "viable," I mean families that still meet the RICO standard - ongoing activity in behalf of an organization. Buffalo, Kansas City, etc. really don't meet that basic criteria anymore.
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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Good point.
Though I have to nitpick about RICO. That is the definition, however RICO can be applied for individuals.
An example of a case my old man did:
A doctor who who ran several clinics, would get the death certificates of recently deceased peoples and then bill Medicare for services that he did not do. Exams, minor surgeries, etc. Since this was Medicare, the Feds got involved. Since there were several clinics and an ongoing pattern of criminal activity, this individual was charged under the RICO statute.
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Re: mafia's drug sales
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Good point.
Though I have to nitpick about RICO. That is the definition, however RICO can be applied for individuals.
An example of a case my old man did:
A doctor who who ran several clinics, would get the death certificates of recently deceased peoples and then bill Medicare for services that he did not do. Exams, minor surgeries, etc. Since this was Medicare, the Feds got involved. Since there were several clinics and an ongoing pattern of criminal activity, this individual was charged under the RICO statute. Interesting case. It corresponds to my impression of RICO-actionable activities. Under a broad definition of RICO, a person who got into hock with a Mob-connected loanshark and had to bust out his business to pay off the debt could be charged under RICO as being part of a "racketeer influenced corrupt organization." That would make the victim all the more willing to cooperate with the Feds in exchange for a lighter sentence or Witness Protection. Best succinct summary of RICO history and intent is found in Selwyn Raab's masterful "The Five Families."
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