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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: Crazy_Joe_Gallo]
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05/09/12 07:23 PM
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I'd love to see a book about the final ruination of the Corleone Family in the 1990s under Vincent's leadership. I think one of the script ideas was that he took the family fully into the narcotics trade and in the end was killed in a manner similar to Pablo Escobar. Not exactly original, too much like Scarface. Something less predictable would be better or with a twist, like he gives up the life and follows Hagen's son into the priesthood.
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Re: The Family Corleone
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05/10/12 03:16 PM
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I got my copy yesterday. I've read the jacket cover only and have already been disgusted by a "mistake" by Falco. The cover is reliving a discussion between Vito and Carmela about their eldest son. Vito says, "Sonny will be OK".
VITO NEVER CALLED HIS OLDEST SON, "SONNY". IT WAS ALWAYS, "SANTINO".
C'mon, Ed, if you're gonna write a book about the Corleones, you have to know this stuff!!!! That's honestly unforgivable. Between that and the ridiculous Empire State Building anachronism on page one---PAGE ONE!!!!---this book is already competing with Alexandra Ripley's literary "sequel" to "Gone With the Wind." And that ain't a compliment. It's very telling that Paramount made all that noise. They must have known that this book was a dog. Because if it's not, why would they try to stop it when they would still own the inevitable movie rights? But I haven't started it yet. I have my copy sitting on the kitchen table and I'll start it either tonight or tomorrow. And if I'm wrong about it, I'll gladly man up and post a stellar review for poor Ed.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: olivant]
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05/10/12 07:31 PM
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VITO NEVER CALLED HIS OLDEST SON, "SONNY". IT WAS ALWAYS, "SANTINO".
Vito: "Never. Give him something to earn a living, a good living. But never let him know the Family's business. Tell the others, Sonny, Fredo, Clemenza." Nice one. Guess that means he will survive this round.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: Sonny_Black]
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05/10/12 08:02 PM
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VITO NEVER CALLED HIS OLDEST SON, "SONNY". IT WAS ALWAYS, "SANTINO".
Vito: "Never. Give him something to earn a living, a good living. But never let him know the Family's business. Tell the others, Sonny, Fredo, Clemenza." Nice one. Guess that means he will survive this round. Not so fast. I suspect that olivant, in his rush to find my statement wrong skipped over this quote, a few pages before his quoted line above. Puzo wrote: "Standing at the door with him were two of his three sons. The eldest, baptized Santino but called Sonny by everyone except his father, was looked at askance by the older Italian men;"Puzo chose to add this at the introduction of the character in the novel. It's a telling thing. The line olivant quoted is merely a mistake in editing, something that should have been caught but obviously wasn't.
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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: RichCerto]
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05/11/12 02:24 AM
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lets think of vito as a person, he makes mistakes here and there or says names differently than usual (not perfect wording i know) but still you can't point out that little flaw it's just nit picking.
The more i see, the less i know - John Lennon
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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: RichCerto]
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05/11/12 03:56 AM
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i got mine on wednesday. not too bad. better then winegarder or whatever is name is! but only read the first 30 pages
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: RichCerto]
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05/11/12 04:05 AM
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short841
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Ed, what I dont like is you always put in "said". you never put any other word. angelo said blah blah but then you put vinnie said. been more interesting using other words like replied, asked, whispered
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"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: JJ_Gittes]
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05/12/12 03:27 PM
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That Vito calls his oldest son Santino while everyone else call him Sonny is Puzo's excellent way of characterizing Vito. Vito is more reserved and formal than the others around him. And I do have Vito almost always refer to Sonny as Santino, but I didn't see it as some kind of rule that could never be broken. In a tender moment between Vito and his wife, he might refer to Santino the same way his wife does, as Sonny. I was trying for a moment of tenderness between Vito and his wife. Here are a couple of particularly good reviews of the novel that came out last week. George De Stefano is the author of An Offer We Can’t Refuse: The Mafia in the Mind of America (Faber & Faber/Farrar, Straus, Giroux). He is also a member of the National Book Critics Circle. From The New York Journal of Books: http://www.nyjournalofbooks.com/review/family-corleoneJon Jordan is ex-cop/detective turned novelist from Milwaukee. From Crimespree: http://crimespreemag.com/blog/?s=The+Family+Corleone
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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: RichCerto]
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05/12/12 03:50 PM
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Liking it so far. Better then the winegardner ones
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: SC]
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05/16/12 08:05 PM
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I got my copy yesterday. I've read the jacket cover only and have already been disgusted by a "mistake" by Falco. The cover is reliving a discussion between Vito and Carmela about their eldest son. Vito says, "Sonny will be OK".
VITO NEVER CALLED HIS OLDEST SON, "SONNY". IT WAS ALWAYS, "SANTINO".
C'mon, Ed, if you're gonna write a book about the Corleones, you have to know this stuff!!!! I'm not even a nitpicker, but I pretty much noticed that IMMEDIATELY while reading the jacket. Still, as long as the story is good, I'm willing to give it a chance.
"Growing up my dad was like 'You have a great last name, Galifianakis. Galifianakis...begins with a gal...and ends with a kiss...' I'm like that's great dad, can we get it changed to 'Galifianafuck' please?" -- Zach Galifianakis
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Re: The Family Corleone
[Re: RichCerto]
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05/17/12 08:42 AM
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dontommasino
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I'm into the second half of the book and things seem to be moving very quickly now!
RichCerto, the gentlemen who did the audio recording for the book did Pentangeli very well!
Last edited by dontommasino; 05/17/12 08:46 AM.
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