he was arrested because they have thier blackberry txt messages to the murder conspiracy. they're going down for 20+ years.
about the bonanno hit squad, that comes from one article, never backed up by anyone else

It was said by reporters and implied in some articles. They didn't specifically say the Bonannos sent a hit squad up there but that they put a price on Desjardins' head.

There were several articles with the hit squad info and despite having the BBM messages that implicated him LE wanted to leave him on the street longer in hopes he would incriminate more people but were forced to arrest him when they did because his life was in jeopardy.

anythngs possible, but i doubt it. bonanno family is in dissary, they cant even get thier house in order in ny, let alone montreal.
they dont have the muscle or the leader to stick thier nose in things up here.

This is so stupidly ignorant it's hilarious.

care to explain?

I'm not even going to, just use your head.

^Agreed^

thats what i thought, just thought u had anything to add. obviously not

What's really hilarious is Mussolini14 seriously talking about the mafia while not so long ago he said he believed those people who interacted with one of its bosses (Vic Amuso) and thought he was innocent. I wonder why he doesn’t say the same about Montagna, Desjardins and the rest.

More so considering he claims to be from Montreal so he should know NY is less than 6 hours away from Montreal. Any Canadian citizen who reads or watches the news should also know that cross border criminal operations are frequent, and BC/Washington marijuana rings are at an all time high but they think the NY mafia wouldn't be able to pull anything off between NY and Montreal.

Also where do they get the info about the "Bonnano's being is such disarray" ? The whole structure of LCN is based around the ability for the family to continue despite leaders being indicted or in jail. LE has been spewing nonsense like "the mafia is crippled" or "the mafia is on its death bed" since the commission trial nearly 30 years ago lol.

you kidding me? ofcourse they are in disarray, last i checked the new acting boss is in jail, graziano in jail again. who is running things?

The Bonannos surely have problems of their own in New York to take care of, but that doesn't stop them from being opportunistic. They are who they are.

Innocent? I think what I said was something along the lines of " I would be more inclined to believe the word of 2 cops who dealt with Amuso for 20+ years than someone like yourself who bases their opinion on the man based on a few articles you read" and I stand by my claim. Why don't you post the whole conversation? It won't just prove I never claimed he was innocent but I am sure many members on this site would like to see what cops who worked with Amuso have to say about him.

being opportunistic is one thing, sure they'll try to make money any way they can. my whole point was the rizzuto family in montreal, any italian mobster in montreal for that matter is not paying the bonanno family tribute money, not for a long time now

Again, LCN is designed with a structure so the family can continue with business despite leaders being jailed or on trial.

They still have 70+ made guys on the street and those guys arent going to stop being opportunistic criminals because their boss is on trial.
I don't know who is running things but based on what other families are doing or have done in similar situations I would guess a panel of about 3 captains are calling the shots.

There not in dissary. Ok they had that bust but there's going to be new players and if there was to be a bonanno war we would of hear about it along time ago

You didn't directly claim he was innocent but you said you believed those Amuso sympathizers on that blog which is unfortunately gone and so we can't read this discussion and quote what was being said there. But, if you have really been there, you won't deny that most of the people there were screaming about "Vic having done nothing wrong apart from seeing good in everybody including Casso". I swear one of the alleged cops there said that "Amuso killed Luongo, but that's the kind of life he chose", and the other said "he should be released". "He chose that", so what? Does this justify him? Does the constitution allow to kill rivals just because he "chose that kind of life"?

even if they have a ruling panel,those captains would need a contact up here. like i said before from the late 1990's early 2000's montreal has stop being subservant to the bonanno family. they just dont have the clout to have any significant infuence here

noone said they would be a war in the bonanno family

This is the speculative part of the story. Just because there is no tribute being paid at this moment doesn't meant that the Bonannos haven't anything to say up there anymore. Especially considering what's going on now.

Well that is your opinion but the only person to make such a claim is Vitale who as you or anyone who has read "The last Godfather" knows he was kept out of the loop on important matters. I am not privy to classified information and you claim not be be either so all we can do is speculate but IMO the Bonannos are not going to give up a tribute as big as one from MOntreal would be without fighting tooth and nail to keep it. I just can't see the Bonanno's or anyone in the mafia for that matter walking away from a tribute because they whacked someone tied to the group making the tribute.

If whacking George from Canada would end a fruitful tribute from Montreal, I don't think Massino would whack him for something as ridiculous as him complaining that TG was a coke head as is the reason claimed by Vitale.

im not 100% but i think in massino's testimony against basciano he said he had george killed because geroge had killed a made man's son in canada, he broke the rules

The Cotronis have one of the biggest factions in Montreal and have been Bonanno loyalist since the 50's and unlike the Rizzuto faction they didn't give a damn when Sciascia was killed and were probably happy because it weakened their biggest rival.

being from montreal i can say with alot of certainty that the cotroni name doesnt mean a whole lot up here anymore. frank cotroni jr son is said to be an up an comer, but he's considered a punk, like growing up gotti kids

Yes he did say that but again I don't believe Massino would value protocal enough to sacrifice a large residual tribute from Montreal.

i dont doubt they would want the tribute back. my point is they dont anymore, and not for a while now. montagna obviously came here and figured he could take over, be boss and montreal could be a prosporous bonanno outpost once again. it didnt work

well there is only 2 reason that we know of.. either cuz of killing a made man's son or just because he favor graziano more . who know's both seem iffy to me

Now that's interesting to hear. These guys seem to operate in the shadows.

there was an article in one french newspaper that was saying he could be the boss soon.. it pretty much drew laughter from everyone up here