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Re: Election 2012
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/16/12 12:02 PM
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Of course off-topic, but why do non-state American territories, who can't vote for President, get to vote for President (and have an effect on the race) in the party primaries? Doesn't make any sense at all, Ronnie. It never has. Santorum's "Speak English" mandate is the final nail in his coffin (not that he was ever going to get the Latino vote anyway). He ought to just take his wife and kids and move to a White Guy militia in Oregon right now. Get it over with. How the grandson of immigrants can be so xenophobic is beyond me. did i miss something here...'speak english' madate? wtf is wrong with this idiot?!
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/16/12 12:06 PM
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Doesn't make any sense at all, Ronnie. It never has.
What also has never made sense for me is those territories voting for Congressional delegates who can't vote, but can speak and join Congressional committees. (In short, they're voting for their elected lobbyist.) The grossest example of this is the D.C. metropolitan area. Why does some asshole from Wyoming or Florida determine and basically speak (by ballot) what funds goes to D.C.? A city that large being taxed but denied a voting representation isn't just wrong, it defies common sense. Why can't Congress pass a bill, without the Constitutional wrangling, giving the D.C. area a vote in the House of Representatives, where all spending bills start at? (Do they need two Senate votes despite not being a state? I don't think so.) Santorum's "Speak English" mandate is the final nail in his coffin (not that he was ever going to get the Latino vote anyway). He ought to just take his wife and kids and move to a White Guy militia in Oregon right now. Get it over with.
How the grandson of immigrants can be so xenophobic is beyond me.
As crazy as this sounds, that gaffe will screw Ricky in PR...I could see Romney's quick rush to condemn Santorum over that flap backfiring on him for the Illinois primary. I could see Ricky even throwing that bomb out on the sunday talk shows. I mean a topic alot of the conservatives adored for years is that "English=National Language" mantra. Mittens saying that is wrong? OF course those same people who would be offended by that timely position are probably already going to vote against him. But this damn race has been crazy already so why not more?
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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03/16/12 12:19 PM
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Illinois will be considered a close race, which I expect Mittens to win. Perhaps no state is more representative of the national GOP than Illinois. No, it doesn’t include sparsely populated, Paul-friendly western highlands or the Mormons of greater Utah, but it has nearly everything else. The Chicago area is among the wealthiest in the country, while southern Illinois, which is physically and politically closer to Alabama and Mississippi than the Windy City, is dominated by culturally southern, working-class, evangelicals. Compared to Ohio and Michigan, Illinois is slightly less evangelical and more affluent, which points toward a narrow Romney advantage. http://electionate.com/2012/03/14/romney-favored-in-three-way-illinois-race/
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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03/17/12 09:32 PM
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Mittens down in Puerto Rico: 'I respect this people. I respect your culture. I respect your history. I respect your leaders.' 'What a beautiful island. What a beautiful place. What a wonderful culture you enjoy. What a wonderful people you are.' I bet he loved the trees too.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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03/17/12 09:46 PM
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Mittens down in Puerto Rico: 'I respect this people. I respect your culture. I respect your history. I respect your leaders.' 'What a beautiful island. What a beautiful place. What a wonderful culture you enjoy. What a wonderful people you are.' I bet he loved the trees too. I don't know if the trees are quite the right height like they are in Michigan.  TIS
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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03/18/12 01:44 PM
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Anyone watch Santorum this morning?
The guy is a walking SNL skit. I did. He almost always looks like he's on the verge of shouting plaintively "But I'm right! I'm right!". Perfectly put, Oli. The guy has no idea which battles to wage and that you can't wage all of them all at the same time (pornography, birth countrol, abortion, etc.). To paraphrase Patton, it's not enough to know how to fight, you have to know when to fight
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/18/12 02:05 PM
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Anyone watch Santorum this morning?
The guy is a walking SNL skit. I did. He almost always looks like he's on the verge of shouting plaintively "But I'm right! I'm right!". Perfectly put, Oli. The guy has no idea which battles to wage and that you can't wage all of them all at the same time (pornography, birth countrol, abortion, etc.). To paraphrase Patton, it's not enough to know how to fight, you have to know when to fight My sister is almost Opus Dei, but she won't support Santorum because of his radical version of Catholicism.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: SC]
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03/19/12 12:30 AM
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It's no mystery who most of the folks here are voting for, and so, their objectiveness can be called into question. Like your objectiveness can't be?? Well, let's see here. Generally speaking, I am conservative. But I'm no Republican. I'm certainly not a Democrat either. I consider myself an independent conservative, though I do find myself agreeing with Democrats on some things. I tend to think both parties do get some things right but are usually full of crap. I hate... HATE...partisan politics. I roll my eyes at Rush Limbaugh and Shawn Hannity as much as I do at Bill Maher or Rachel Maddow. They all have an agenda of some type. There are things I like and dislike about Obama. I have been pleasantly surprised on how he has handled national defense issues. And while his health care plan may not be the answer, it's not like fixing the system was ever a big priority for the Republicans. At the same time, I cringe to think of what will happen to the Supreme Court if Obama wins another term. And for all the talk about how wealthy Romney is, it's not like Obama will ever have money problems. And there are things that I like and dislike about Romney. Just because the guy is the same religion as me, doesn't mean I'm in the bag for him. Even if he has genuinely changed his stance on certain social issues, he should have never had different ones to begin with; especially so late in life. Some of these were issues that are pretty black and white, far as LDS doctrine goes, so I expect more from Romney than an Obama-like "evolving of views." I'm also a a big animal lover so the whole dog on the car roof story has always left me befuddled. And while I do think he is a natural businessman and leader, I do also have questions about a guy who has never, and will never, have to worry about living paycheck to paycheck.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: IvyLeague]
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03/19/12 04:04 AM
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this thread is now more about making fun of GOP candidates. That's certainly true. It's no mystery who most of the folks here are voting for, and so, their objectiveness can be called into question. considering it's a site about italian criminals, it's no surprise most people here tend to support Democrats.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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03/19/12 09:18 AM
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this thread is now more about making fun of GOP candidates. That's certainly true. It's no mystery who most of the folks here are voting for, and so, their objectiveness can be called into question. considering it's a site about italian criminals, it's no surprise most people here tend to support Democrats. Interesting strategy - come on a forum and then complain that because others don't agree with you they are not objective. Taking a quick look at your posts, I wouldn't describe you as a paragon of objectivity.
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Re: Election 2012
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03/19/12 11:34 AM
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As if this particular group of Republican Candidates aren't making it so easy for people to ridicule them? It's a field day for jokes. TIS
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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/19/12 12:14 PM
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Funny thing is, I don't know whether to be offended as an Italian American or as a moderate Democrat. Ditto!! Glad I'm not alone TIS
Last edited by The Italian Stallionette; 03/19/12 12:14 PM.
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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03/19/12 02:06 PM
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Actually it's a site about IMAGINARY Italian criminals from a MOVIE, so I'm not sure how that plays into party affiliation. 
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/19/12 03:18 PM
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I'm a moderate Democrat. I hate extremes. I've voted for Republicans many times in the past. But this current crop of Republicans (except for Romney) drives me up a wall. The culture war is unwinnable, and Santorum's refusal to drop it is enough to turn off even the most religious Catholic voter. If the culture war is so lost, why do leftists say "pro-choice" instead of "pro-abortion"? And the people laughing at Santorum's statements about porn would not want an adult book store close to their own home. Kind of hypocritical. Culture war is not as lost as you think.
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