That's about right. I think 50 is the max for all three families. Pogo's chart over on the RD lists 42 members for the DeCavalcantes. There's at least 43 for New England. And at least 43 for Philadelphia.

Mind providing us a list of all those made guys? Personally, I am curious.

Sure ill get them on here soon as possible, also past charts posted on here might give you a good idea

Yeah that "unlimited" thing was kind of a joke, but it does seem like that some new kid I never heard of before pops up in Philadelphia as a significant player every few months. That doesn't happen too often in New England, and it doesn't happen at all in Detroit, Buffalo, or even Chicago it seems.

I Read that the decalvalcantes only have fifty associates from the new jersey organised crime report. Is that because the Genovese have five crews there and the others have influence there therefore people from jersey become associated with the ny families then the decalvs?

That's definitely a possibility. One family is called "the Ivy League", and the other is called "a farm team". Which would you rather join?

Yh I know haha. Was just sayingincase if that is a possibility. But fifty associates seem very low!

If you look at that 2004 report, it cites the New Jersey faction of the Genovese family having 40 members and 400 associates. Which basically dwarfs the 40 members and 50 associates it cited for the DeCavalcantes.

Yh that's the report Im on about. That's nothing 50 associates. No wonder there's not much news about them

Philly has many of young associates who are content with being just that, making extra cash on the side while working real jobs and staying under the radar and never wanted to step it up or step on anyone's toes.

South Philly is a very small community so brushing up against mobsters is common around here, there is no way of really telling if this guy or that guy has something going on with a high profile mobster around here.

Still haven't heard of any new news on the front here about what it going on. We know Mazzone, Ciangalini, and Mikey Lance are the major players but I would still like to know of any word on who got bumped to captain since all of Ligambi's crew went down.

Decavalcante Family

Boss

Giovanni Riggi/86

Acting Boss

Francesco Guarraci/57

Underboss

Joseph Miranda/86

Consigliere

Stefano Vitabile/77

Made Members

Philip Abramo/67
Joseph "Jo Jo" Ferrara/64
Giuseppe "Pino" Schifilliti/79
Salvatore "Little Sal" Timpani/66
Gaetano Alessi
Daniel "Danny" Annunziata
Amelio Cocchiaro
Rosario “Russell” Cocchiaro
Joseph Collina
Louis "Louie Eggs" Consalvo
Carl Corsentino
Nicholas “Nick” Cottone
Paul Cuamo
Frank D'Amato
Anthony DeMaio
James Gallo
Francesco “Joe” Gatto
Joseph "Uncle Joe" Giaccobe
Leonardo “Larry” Giacobbe
Girolamo Guarraggi
Charles "Fat Charlie" Majuri
Anthony "Marshmallow" Mannarino
Joseph Merlo
Michael Merlo
Joseph Miglorato
Frank Nigro
Robert "Bobby Basile" Occhipiti
Girolamo "Jimmy Gumps" Palermo
Francesco Paparatto
Salvatore “Sal” Polizzi
Gregory Rago
Emmanuel "Manny" Riggi
John "Junior" Riggi
Vincent Riggi/
Joseph "Tin Ear" Sclafani
Nicholas Tozzie/
Gaetano "Corky" Vastola/ Retired

seems to me that man for man, the philly family has the most going on in terms of activity and indictments, along with new england.

I still think those two are somewhat more active than Chicago, but I'm obviously in the minority with this opinion.

definatly a worthy arguement. it seems like philly and new england might have a wider scope of activities going on, especially drug dealing which might serve to widen thier exposure.the chicago mob seems to be the least involved in drug dealing out of the remaining viable families.

Chicago staying out of the drug trade for the most part has to do that the bosses who ran the family into the 80s never allowed it and was still punishable by death, by the time accardo died in the early 90s there were rico laws and heat from the feds so there was no sense for them to get into it, Also in terms of activity and indictments i would go Philly,New England,Chicago and Decavalcante. In my honest opinion a bigger indictment against the Decavalcante could come sometime, they remind of how philly didn't have any massive indictments from 2002 until last year.

Yeah, essentially agreed with that order, but I'd put New England on par with or ahead of Philadelphia.

I suppose one could argue that Detroit and DeCavalcante are roughly on par with one another, but I can't think of any way to prove or disprove that. They do seem to me to be at the same approximate level of "not doing a whole lot" though.

Chicago is involved with drugs a bit, or was a while ago anyway. If I remember correctly, one of the DIFronzo brothers set a world's record for largest indoor marijuana farm of all time or something.

The Decavalcante family is much more viable than detroit, the reason there hasn't been many indictments against the Decavs is after 2003 when they had much of the family indicted the FBI felt a job well done and after get a blow on a smaller family like that they don't go straight back to hammering them, just like philly after merlino,Stanfa and many others were jailed they really didn't do anything until recently, also when talking about Chicago i mostly meant hard drugs not pot,

Francesco Guarraci was indicted in 2009 of extorting business
James Castaldo, a soldier was convicted of hiring a hitman
Also some other cases, and the Decavalcante crime family was mentioned in the big roundup in January 2011 so i believe them to still be viable

Detroit makes the DeCav's with it's 40 or so active guys look like fuckin' Napoleon's army.





In case, for clarification, that makes Detroit really small

Detroit still have about 25 made guys and they have 2 sources of income legitimate and gambling, the family just faded because the toccos and giacalones are millionares and don't need to make members

So those are pretty active then? I was under the impression that although there were 40ish made guys still in existence, they were all retired, in jail, or doing really penny-ante shit like the one acting boss guy who extorted a pizzeria with a baseball bat a while back.

They are active to an extent that they are making millions,No. They are active in traditional mob rackets and many members are in jail but are due out over the next couple of years, also the New York families due that same extortion gig with bats and threats so it doesn't mean they aren't viable. Also they indicted Guarraci for that but doesn't mean they don't have other rackets

The drug cases involving the Outfit have been relatively few and far between but there have been some over the years. In the 1950's, Sam "Teets" Battaglia and Fifi Buccieri were both into drugs. In 1956, Turk Torello and Rocky Infelise were busted for being in possession of $100,000 worth of heroin. In the 1960's, Americo DiPietto and Rocky Infelise were busted for drug trafficking. Then in the 1970's, Infelise was busted for drug trafficking again. In 1986, 10 kilos of cocaine were seized during a raid of a sports betting operation run by Marco D'Amico. Then in the early 1990's you had Joe DiFronzo's in-house marijuana growing operation. In the late 1990's you had associate, Ronnie Jarrett, who was involved in cocaine trafficking with the Satan's Disciples street gang. May have been one reason he was killed, among other things. Then, in 2001, associate Anthony Giannone was busted for marijuana trafficking. It seems that, contrary to the 100% "no dealing" rule that many have thought, it was more like Castellano's rule in the Gambino family. You couldn't deal...unless you had permission. If you did deal without permission, that's when you were in trouble.

Also, for the record, there were some fairly big indictments in Philadelphia between 2002 and last year. In 2008, you had the 24 people, including Michael Lancellotti and Anthony Nicodemo, charged in the $60 million Borgata sports betting case. That same year, you also had 17 people, including Lou Monacello, busted in "Operation Delco Nostra." And there were other smaller cases here and there during those years, including when about 50 video poker machines were seized from several locations in South Philly.

I'd still put the DeCavalcantes ahead of Detroit. The feds do. How far ahead is the question. We've talked before how the hits they took in the late 1990's and early 2000's would be devastating for a smaller family like that. And then they had their union - Laborers Local 394 - put under federal trusteeship in 2006. No wonder there have only been a handful of cases over the past decade. I'm not ready to write them off yet. There could eventually be another big case around the corner. But one starts to wonder the more time goes by. They seem to have been running on fumes in recent years.

To be honest, looking at the cases I've compiled for these remaining smaller families remaining outside New York; New England, Philadelphia, and Chicago are pretty comparable. With the DeCavalcantes coming afterward.

This is what I have for the DeCavalcantes. Notice the big drop off after the big superseding cases from 1999 to 2001.



In March 2000, 3 New Jersey LCN associates, including Arthur McCarthy, Franceso Paparatto, and Pat Dwyer, were indicted in New Jersey on charges of racketeering, loansharking, extortion, mail fraud, and theft on construction sites from 1994 to 1999.

In an April 2001 superseding indictment, following previous indictments in December 1999 and October 2000, 21 people, including New Jersey LCN boss John "The Eagle" Riggi, ruling panel member Vincent "Vinny Ocean" Palermo, acting bosses Girolamo "Jimmy" Palermo and Charles "Fat Charles" Majuri, consigliere Stefano "Steve" Vitable, captains Philip Abramo, Francesco "Frank" Polizzi, Giuseppe "Pino" Schifilliti, Anthony Rotundo and Joseph Giacohhe, soldiers Joseph "Tin Ear" Sclafani, Louis "Louie Eggs" Consalvo, Anthony "Marshmellow" Mannarino, Gregory Rago, Joseph Collina Sr., Frank D'Amato, Simone "Daddy" Palermo, and associates Bernard Nicasro, Frank "The Beast" Scarabinio, Charles "The Hat" Stango, Americo "Mike" Massa, Joseph "Big Joey" Brideson, Ruben Malave, Martin Lewis, and NYPD detective Michael Silvestri, were indicted in Manhattan on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, running a sports betting and loansharking operation with the Gambino and Colombo families that netted $2.5 million, extortion of businesses including labor bribery kickbacks from contractors in the construction industry through no-show jobs and sweetheart deals with LIUNA Locals 394 and 1030, extortion of a bus company, truck hijacking, selling stolen goods (2, 250 cases of wine, clothes, 29,000 packages of vitamins, 56 digital copiers, toner, and Kraft food), selling counterfeit goods, selling stolen US savings bonds, the $1.6 million robbery from an armored truck at the World Trade Center, attempted robbery of a payroll office, tax fraud, mail fraud, obstruction of justice, and murder.

In May 2003, it was reported that recent cases had shown the DeCavalcante family's control over local labor unions in the construction industry "had slipped" and LCN members were actually having to work when their names came up on union rolls and it was becoming harder to form relationships between corrupt union leaders and contractors.

In July 2003, 3 New Jersey LCN members and associates, including Mimmo Marzullo, Michael Ferrente, and Keith Cimera, were indicted in New Jersey on charges of running a sports betting operation, loansharking, and cashing over $170,000 in stolen checks from a gambler in their debt.

In May 2004, the New Jersey Commission of Investigation released a report on organized crime in the state, which included a summary of the DeCavalcante LCN family, based in Peterstown section of Elizabeth, New Jersey, said to have approximately 40 members and at least 50 associates. However, many of those members were incarcerated and the group was said to be undergoing reorganization and reentrenchment at the hands of a "skeleton crew" of non-indicted members.

In February 2006, LIUNA Local 394 was put under federal trusteeship due to ongoing corruption and organized crime influence.

In February 2010, 3 New Jersey LCN members and associates, including acting boss Francesco "Frank" Guaracci, were indicted in New Jersey on charges of conspiracy and extorting a pizza shop.

In January 2011, 2 New Jersey LCN members, Jerry Balzano and Joseph Colina, were indicted in Brooklyn on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, possession of contraband cigarettes, receipt of stolen tax refund checks, and loansharking.

In August 2011, the New York Business Integrity Commission denied an operating license to Cara Seafood Express for ties to the DeCavalcantes.

In December 2011, DeCavalcante associates, Steven Marcus of I.T.L Concrete Recycling, Circus Rubbish Removal, Ace Materials & Trucking, Ltd., and Roman Sand & Stone, LLC; and Veincent Alessi, of Duramix Concrete Corp., Bayone Durable Construction Co., and Hudson Keystone Express LLC. were cited in the New Jersey Commission of Investigation report on ongoing organized crime involvement in the solid waste and unregulated recycling industry in New Jersey.

thats interesting about reorganising, reentrenchment and the skeleton crew

Ivy, what's you're take on Lou Monacello? I posted in an earlier tread that I was surprised he's apparently not in Witness Protection but still living out in the open.

I do consider Philly a viable family, but when people are not even afraid of a family before testifying...
I mean, if there was a top witness in Chicago that was going to help put some major players away, he would not be relaxing in some Chicago suburb, going out etc. and live to tell about it, in my opinion.

As it has been discussed on here and other forums before, killing rats would bring way too much heat on the family plus the feds know there is always a chance they may be whacked out or discovered to be a rat, so Monacello has already signed sworn statements and everything the damage has been done. If philly decided to whack him it would't matter its too late, he has given the feds all the info already. Plus not so much in Monacello's but WITSEC is worse than death to many mobsters, The feds move you away from where you grew up and know everybody and give you some non-italian name and work at some shitty job with with minium wage pay, basically a living hell for a mobster because the whole reason they joined the mafia was to not have to work and to make money without being a regular joe

Speaking of Philly and Lou Monacello, enjoy!

True. But Philly has always seemed to be a little crazy. While nothing will likely happen to him, I also wouldn't be surprised if somebody tried to take him out. Then again, that may not be what Ligambi wants, as it would be way to obvious.

Based on the location of the DeCavalcante's and their closeness with the strongest families in the United States, I'd say yeah, Detroit makes New Jersey look like an army. Neither one of which is strong to begin with. With that analogy and the decline of the independent New Jersey family, one can assume on the very, very small size of any LCN, whatever it may be that's left in Detroit.

Anymore news on Dame turning informant?