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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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Originally posted by Toni_corleone: lol I've never heard of a Consigilere as acting boss where and when has that ever happend?
I'm not trying to be an ass I was just asking. I believe that in real life, Bonanno mobster Anthony Spero went from family consigliere to acting boss. Vincent The Chin Gigante served as a consigliere and when Fat Tony Salerno was convicted, Gigante stepped in as acting boss. Don Cardi 
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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No Chrissy took over the Soprano crew, which made Paulie just the underboss, he was working in a double capacity. Toward the end Paulie wasn't producing and Tony didn't seem to trust him to be part of his inner circle but he still knew Paulie would die for him and do whatever he orders, this is why he is at the safe house with Tony during the war with Phil. Paulie was a soldier under Tony's dad, then Tony, when Tony took over the family Paulie became capo of Tony's crew(Soprano crew left to him by his dad), whenever Tony brought Furio over and made him his driver/bodyguard/personal collector it removed Paulie from this position and made him the underboss. Tony said, dont recall exact words but i will try, him coming over moves you up im number one then number two is you and sil together, if this doesnt make him the underboss can you please explain to me how. Who does Tony send to talk to other capos to lay down the line, like when Richie ran over Beansie, Paulie and Silvio. Never remember a scene where Tony named Sil his consigliere, but we know it because he called himself consigliere many times as well as Tony also doing so. Seeing Paulie performing the duties of underboss is the same thing as being called it to me. Tony was also the underboss and capo of the Soprano crew during the reign of Junior, holding both positions at the same time until he took over the family.
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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At the end of Season 6, when Phil plans to take out the New Jersey "higher ups", they decide on Tony, Silvio, and Bobby. If Paulie was Underboss you'd have to think he'd be one of the 3. It seems strange, but I don't think there was an official Underboss.
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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At the end of Season 6, when Phil plans to take out the New Jersey "higher ups", they decide on Tony, Silvio, and Bobby. If Paulie was Underboss you'd have to think he'd be one of the 3. It seems strange, but I don't think there was an official Underboss. Well maybe they didnt target Paulie because Paulie had been around for a very long time (back to Johnny Soprano) and he had a previous relationship with many of the older NY guys since then.
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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Well maybe they didnt target Paulie because Paulie had been around for a very long time (back to Johnny Soprano) and he had a previous relationship with many of the older NY guys since then.
Did many of them know/respect Paulie though? Carmine Lupertazzi had no clue who he was when Paulie came up to him at that wedding or whatever it was. It just seemed like Phil was hell bent on wiping out the New Jersey family and was going after, who they considered, the top 3 in the hierarchy (Tony, Silvio, Bobby)
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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Well maybe they didnt target Paulie because Paulie had been around for a very long time (back to Johnny Soprano) and he had a previous relationship with many of the older NY guys since then.
Did many of them know/respect Paulie though? Carmine Lupertazzi had no clue who he was when Paulie came up to him at that wedding or whatever it was. It just seemed like Phil was hell bent on wiping out the New Jersey family and was going after, who they considered, the top 3 in the hierarchy (Tony, Silvio, Bobby) That is true about Carmine, Carmine was a NY boss and thus the probability of Carmine having any in-depth interaction back in the day with Paulie was low. But Paulie had a very close relationship with Johnny Sack. Maybe they went after the top 3 guys in the family (in terms of influence), not necessarily the three guys in terms of hierarchy at the time.
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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Well maybe they didnt target Paulie because Paulie had been around for a very long time (back to Johnny Soprano) and he had a previous relationship with many of the older NY guys since then.
Did many of them know/respect Paulie though? Carmine Lupertazzi had no clue who he was when Paulie came up to him at that wedding or whatever it was. It just seemed like Phil was hell bent on wiping out the New Jersey family and was going after, who they considered, the top 3 in the hierarchy (Tony, Silvio, Bobby) Johnny Sack used Paulie to get information if i remember. Paulie was respected as a tough wiseguy but i dotn think they respected him as a leader or someone who could be a successful boss. Silvio and Bobby by the end were the only oned who could make money and were smart enought to replace tony as boss That is true about Carmine, Carmine was a NY boss and thus the probability of Carmine having any in-depth interaction back in the day with Paulie was low. But Paulie had a very close relationship with Johnny Sack. Maybe they went after the top 3 guys in the family (in terms of influence), not necessarily the three guys in terms of hierarchy at the time.
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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At the end NY didnt care about who was smart enough/would be a successful leader. Butchie said they would do business with what is "left" after taking out those three guys. It would be in NY's interest to have an ineffective leader in Jersey because then that person would be more inclined to support NY and not get in their way, not argue much, etc,
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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At the end of Season 6, when Phil plans to take out the New Jersey "higher ups", they decide on Tony, Silvio, and Bobby. If Paulie was Underboss you'd have to think he'd be one of the 3. It seems strange, but I don't think there was an official Underboss. Bobby B stepped into the role in season 6 because Tony no longer trusted Paulie with his thoughts and such, so to everyone including the FBI and NY it was easy to see Bobby B was now number 2 even though there havent been at actual naming of the underboss. Paulie was underboss until season 6 though.
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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My birthday is not till August but thanks for he present Nova!!! No problem haha. It's something every Sopranos fan should get to see.
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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Re: Who did Tony Soprano appoint Underboss...
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Most likely Bobby was Street Boss and this day and age Underbosses aren't usually influential so Paulie wouldn't have been targeted
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