0 registered members (),
86
guests, and 28
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums21
Topics43,467
Posts1,090,163
Members10,381
|
Most Online1,254 Mar 13th, 2025
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6493
02/01/04 09:15 PM
02/01/04 09:15 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 61 Pittsburgh, Pa
Io non bib
Button
|
Button
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 61
Pittsburgh, Pa
|
and you call this person a friend?
"Don Corleone, I am honored and grateful that you have invited me to your daughter... 's wedding... on the day of your daughter's wedding. And I hope their first child be a masculine child. I pledge my ever-ending loyalty."
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6494
02/01/04 10:40 PM
02/01/04 10:40 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 23 Las Vegas
Connie_Corleone
Wiseguy
|
Wiseguy
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 23
Las Vegas
|
Originally posted by Don Sonny Corleone: I let a friend watch GF1, and she says that the ending is the worst possible ending for a movie. ...Closing the door on Kay was symbolic and she doesnt seem to get that. Oh my god how could she NOT get it??? It's one of the best scenes, ever ... I'm speechless.
"You blamed him for Sonny -- you always did. Everybody did. But you never thought about me -- you never gave a damn about me."
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6496
02/02/04 06:04 AM
02/02/04 06:04 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 310
EnzoBaker
Capo
|
Capo
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 310
|
Originally posted by Connie_Corleone: Originally posted by Don Sonny Corleone: [b] I let a friend watch GF1, and she says that the ending is the worst possible ending for a movie. ...Closing the door on Kay was symbolic and she doesnt seem to get that. Oh my god how could she NOT get it??? It's one of the best scenes, ever ... I'm speechless. [/b]The book goes into a much longer explanation of it, but the final scene conveys the message perfectly: Kay knows, despite what Michael had just told her, that in fact, the answer was "yes." I always have fun with friends posing this "what-if" scenario about the ending: MICHAEL: This one time, I'll let you ask me about my business. KAY: Is it true? MICHAEL: (long pause) You ask me if it's true? All right, I'll tell you: Yes, it's true. You're damn right it's true. Carlo set up my brother to be killed and he beat my sister within inches of her life at least twice that we know of. He sold Pop out, he sold Sonny out, and he was gonna sell me out the first chance he got. You're looking at me like I'm a monster, and let me tell you: I am. I'm a monster to anybody who goes against my blood. Anybody who threatens you, or me, or our children, is gonna find out the same thing. And someday, you're gonna be thankful for it.
"You did good."
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6497
02/02/04 01:42 PM
02/02/04 01:42 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 8,224 New Jersey
AppleOnYa
|

Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 8,224
New Jersey
|
Originally posted by Don Sonny Corleone: ...Closing the door on Kay was symbolic and she doesnt seem to get that. I think you've hit the nail on the head, Don Sonny...your friend just doesn't get it. Lots of people don't. Your frustration is certainly understandable ... little we can do but take pity on people like this and hope they are gradually drawn in and one day figure it out. Better than wasting our energy...though the BB Board is a great place to vent about it!!! Best, Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6499
02/02/04 06:53 PM
02/02/04 06:53 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 23
king henrik
Wiseguy
|
Wiseguy
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 23
|
when the door is shut on Kay...there isnt much to "get". Its not like there is a hidden message there or anything.
It's not personal, Sonny...It's strictly business
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6500
02/02/04 07:48 PM
02/02/04 07:48 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,721 AZ
Turnbull
|

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,721
AZ
|
Doors are a metaphor for Michael and Kay's relationship in the other films, too. In GFII, when Kay is visiting her kids after her split from Michael, he closes the door on her. In GFIII, in Sicily, Kay and Michael are that close to renewing their romance when Calo knocks on the door to tell Michael that Don Tomassino's been shot. Michael leaves Kay, goes through the door to do Sicilian vengeance business with Calo--as the camera pans backward on Kay, alone, on the other side of the door, with a look of resignation and regret, as if to say, "this isn't me--I'm not part of this."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6502
02/03/04 02:34 AM
02/03/04 02:34 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 23 Las Vegas
Connie_Corleone
Wiseguy
|
Wiseguy
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 23
Las Vegas
|
Originally posted by EnzoBaker: The book goes into a much longer explanation of it, but the final scene conveys the message perfectly: Kay knows, despite what Michael had just told her, that in fact, the answer was "yes." [/QB] Hmmm ... I guess I have a different point of view on that one. I prefer the ending in the movie (well, I prefer the movie on a lot of levels). I think Kay really did believe Michael at the moment he said, "No." It wasn't until she looked back into the study, saw the guys with Michael, and had the door closed on her that she began to understand/have second thoughts. I guess another reason why I prefer the movie ending (and its continuation in GF2) is that I never quite bought that Kay would 'hop onboard' with the Scicilian 'thing' as she calls it ... well she definitely proved that in GF2 as we all know. Seemed more in character with Kay in general, or with a WASP-ish, upper class bred woman. (just my theory!)
"You blamed him for Sonny -- you always did. Everybody did. But you never thought about me -- you never gave a damn about me."
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6503
02/04/04 07:42 PM
02/04/04 07:42 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 14 not hiding out in the bronx
Capo Status
Wiseguy
|
Wiseguy
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 14
not hiding out in the bronx
|
I dont think you could have had a better ending to it, i mean, the door shuts after he explains to Kay not to ask about his buisiness. i mean, seriously, genious. you couldnt have done it another way. and people dont get it? people expext too much, and i dont these people know how to even view a movie. i dunno, im rambling , but i may have a point in there somewhere.
...in my HOME!
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6508
02/25/04 11:43 PM
02/25/04 11:43 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273 Hell
Mike Sullivan
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273
Hell
|
DSC,
Is your friend the casual film viewer that expects loads of action like most teens now a days? Like My Fellow Pears?
No wonder she hatted it... She doesnt know how to see a movie...
Madness! Madness! - Major Clipton The Bridge On The River Kwai
GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled. - Greed
Nothing Is Written Lawrence Of Arabia
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6509
02/26/04 12:01 AM
02/26/04 12:01 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1 United States
Timothy Miller
Associate
|
Associate
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1
United States
|
That's very strange about your friend, everyone I know who has seen the movie has loved the show, including the ending. Kay was naive, she needed to wake up and Michael's way of making her wake up is with the door theory.
-Gweedo Corleone
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6513
02/26/04 11:18 PM
02/26/04 11:18 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273 Hell
Mike Sullivan
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273
Hell
|
Actually Part II had a beter ending...
Mike out on the lake... So Haunting...
Madness! Madness! - Major Clipton The Bridge On The River Kwai
GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled. - Greed
Nothing Is Written Lawrence Of Arabia
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6514
02/27/04 04:02 AM
02/27/04 04:02 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 214
Bella_Dana
Made Member
|
Made Member
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 214
|
Originally posted by Mike Sullivan: Actually Part II had a beter ending...
Mike out on the lake... So Haunting... the ending of part 2 was kind of sad to me, hes sittin all alone on the lake and thinking about the past. but it's also symbolic.
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6515
02/27/04 12:44 PM
02/27/04 12:44 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 8,224 New Jersey
AppleOnYa
|

Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 8,224
New Jersey
|
Originally posted by Don Sonny Corleone: ...She said that all of us here have no lives. She was going to make a list of all the negitive parts of the movie, but she hasnt gotten around to it... Don Sonny: If your friend ever comes up with that list, I'd love to see it. But if she does ever manage to get around to such a thing, please remind her for us that it is SHE who apparently has no life. Best, AppleOnYa
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6516
02/27/04 04:20 PM
02/27/04 04:20 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 27 nyc
madewoman
Wiseguy
|
Wiseguy
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 27
nyc
|
Originally posted by Don Sonny Corleone: She said that all of us here have no lives. ______________________________________________ My boyfriend said the same thing, which is odd, as he's perfect in every way, otherwise. 
What have I done that you would treat me so disrepectfully?
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6518
02/27/04 07:11 PM
02/27/04 07:11 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273 Hell
Mike Sullivan
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273
Hell
|
Originally posted by Family Honour: Well I'm ashamed to say my family, friends,dont even get as far as the ending, they said the GF was boring They just don't have the 'soul' to see the masterpiece it is
FH Im glad that Is not the case with my family...
Madness! Madness! - Major Clipton The Bridge On The River Kwai
GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled. - Greed
Nothing Is Written Lawrence Of Arabia
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6519
02/28/04 10:18 PM
02/28/04 10:18 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,543 Gateshead, UK
Capo de La Cosa Nostra
|

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,543
Gateshead, UK
|
Originally posted by Don Sonny Corleone: I let a friend watch GF1, and she says that the ending is the worst possible ending for a movie. This seriously needs to be sorted out. Your friend clearly has some mental illness. Cure it by chopping off her head and putting it in a stable. Mick
...dot com bold typeface rhetoric. You go clickety click and get your head split. 'The hell you look like on a message board Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
|
|
|
Re: The End
#6520
02/28/04 10:26 PM
02/28/04 10:26 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273 Hell
Mike Sullivan
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273
Hell
|
That is an ingenius idea!
Madness! Madness! - Major Clipton The Bridge On The River Kwai
GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled. - Greed
Nothing Is Written Lawrence Of Arabia
|
|
|
|