First time poster, longtime viewer. I recently began looking into the 2007 New Jersey Lucchese guys' bust. Well, in actuality it was the Feds' chart that got me interested… it was funny cause for once, most of the defendants DIDN'T have grey hair. I'm always interested in seeing who the up-and-comers are.

Similar last names are always interesting (Ralph Perna's 3 sons/ their wives, Cetta's boy and his wife among them). I have been having some trouble learning about these guys; who's got their button, who's associates, etc. I do understand Michael Maffucci turned state's. Does anyone keep up with this case, how much time these guys are looking at, etc? Also, are these boys going places or are they the typical Uday Hussein idiot son types we see a lot of today?

Thanks, hope this is enough of a relevant first post.

Of the guys on that chart, Joe DiNapoli, Matthew Madonna, Nicky Scarfo Jr., Ralph Perna, John Perna, Joseph Perna, Antonio Russo, and John Mangarella are made.

anybody got a link to that old indictment, i want to read some of the wiretaps in it...

Operation Heat?

Looks like the link to the arrest affidavit I put up a while back went dead.

damm, i wanted to read some stuff about scarfo jr and his interactions with the jersey crew

From what I recall, there wasn't much of him in it. Some talk between DiNapoli and somebody else about taking him down from captain. Most of the conversations recorded were the Pernas.

its a big screwed up case. one law in jersy state court is the capo's get enhensed time. so scarfo jr caught a break and can just plead guilty to gambling then have run concurrent with the fed case. bet he gets 6yrs. the capo will get smoked but george a said there something tying this case up in the supreme court decision.they have scarfo getting demoted on tape. i wish they would let the perna kids cars tapes released all, they had his cars wired for over a year. thats bad.kickd out the familly if there to much talk big question whose capo today. steve crea must have made a new capo theres to much money, and that crew in huge.

The two Perna kids are made? Damn.

I wasn't this shocked since I found out that Tony DiNunzio's son was made too...

These guys are toddlers (in LCN years) how could they get made at that age?

Family connections, i.e. Ralph Perna, Michael Perna, etc.

As for the Perna kids, are they coming across as stupid 3rd/4th generation hacks or are they smart youngsters on their first pinch? It's hard to tell… maybe I'm just not a vet mob watcher and don't know what to look for.

I mean in my opinion as long as none of them rat they're stand up (it seems everyone gets pinched now adays).

Jesus look at the chart of indictees… this is like a roll call of Jr. Luchese… what's the average age of the bottom half? Gotta be like 30?

Well, Joe Perna was pretty careless about talking on his cell phone so much. But maybe he'll learn. Then again, maybe not.

Hahaha well if anyone feels like calling Joe yourself… I just found his W-2 job.

http://www.21centuryautogroup.com/staff/index.cfm/page/staff

A few of these guys live(d) in my town lol

Ha! Nice find.

Oh my, hahahahaha. So this guy's a made guy with the Lucchese's? Interesting front job, an insurance salesman with a nationally known company. His 9-5 seems pretty legit

I might call him and congratulate him on his act of diplomacy with a 5 star general. "Mafia Diolomat Little Joe Perna" has defected to the bloods street gang and was given his on set. Tri-Meatball

The question is, how much time does he actually spend there. It may be just something for tax purposes.

I'm going to call Joe Perna from my friends pre-paid phone before 5 Est today see if hes there.

Somebody outta get financed for a car over there… "ask for Joe"

How much has this guy spent on legal fees? And how much does a bug sweeper cost? I mean if I was a heavy hitter like Little Joe I'd be sweeping my home, office and car like every week!