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Re: Random Music News/Musings/Debates Thread
[Re: Lilo]
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alot of these women need a good crack in the mouth,,,,Rhianna she had that coming,,,my friend works for a big name music guy in LA and he saw her pull a knofe on Chris earlier that day..true story
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Re: Random Music News/Musings/Debates Thread
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10/04/12 08:27 PM
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alot of these women need a good crack in the mouth,,,,Rhianna she had that coming,,,my friend works for a big name music guy in LA and he saw her pull a knofe on Chris earlier that day..true story She had it coming? Crack in the mouth?  Maybe she was protecting herself from that asshole woman beater Chris Brown who beat the fu*k out of her a while back. TIS
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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Random Music News/Musings/Debates Thread
[Re: Lilo]
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Does this change your opinion of Lennon? Or does it make you more willing to forgive other abusers? What is your standard for bad behavior for artists? It's easy to condemn artists whose music or books or other output you dislike anyway. But what about when it's someone whose artistic creations mean something to you? What do you mean opinion, artistic or personal? I don't think it changes artistic opinion, since I tend to try to seperate the art from the artist. I mean Roman Polanski, great filmmaker. (GHOST WRITER could teach these punk kid directors how to make a thriller) He also should've gone to jail and not escaped to France. I've always got the impression with Lennon that he was or can be a dick. Absolutely witty, though bipolar and unpredictable when it came to his former Beatle comrades not named Ringo.* It's why journalists loved him, he rattled off whatever shit comes off his brain that day and doesn't care about the consequences. I remember that one alleged anecdote I remember reading years back, during the early days of the John/Yoko affair (the VIRGIN LOVERS days) and Yoko reached for a newspaper on the table and SMACK! "That's my paper!" People do tend to tie their fandom of artists with their public life, or the character they present to the public. It's foolish because inevitably they always come up short. How much of Mel Gibson's global fandom was related to his supposed likeable everyguy persona he always put up in interviews? In what indication did you get of his anti-semitism or his short temper or openly sharing his opinion of women and black people when liquored up? I might just be one of the few peoples who have no interest in "knowing" celebrities or meeting them. (I don't get autographs either.) Hey I like your music or movies, let's not complete that m'kay? Lennon was a great musician, no doubt about that. But let's just leave it at that. (Seriously me and Lilo couldn't be fans/admirers of Prince if we let his infamous psychotic assholic reputation define if we can stand him or his music.) *=I'm still marveled how he was the only one who had a good decent relationship with all the Beatles, when the others loathed each other. Maybe he was too likeable? Maybe they didn't respect him enough to be jealous? Who knows.
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Re: Random Music News/Musings/Debates Thread
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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10/05/12 06:03 AM
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Does this change your opinion of Lennon? Or does it make you more willing to forgive other abusers? What is your standard for bad behavior for artists? It's easy to condemn artists whose music or books or other output you dislike anyway. But what about when it's someone whose artistic creations mean something to you? What do you mean opinion, artistic or personal? I don't think it changes artistic opinion, since I tend to try to seperate the art from the artist. I mean Roman Polanski, great filmmaker. (GHOST WRITER could teach these punk kid directors how to make a thriller) He also should've gone to jail and not escaped to France. Either or both. Artistic or personal. I also really really try to separate art from the artist. This is easier if the artist happens to be dead (HP Lovecraft , Robert E. Howard, etc) but there are limits. Sometimes the artist is such a **** that I can't ignore that or sometimes the artist's views which are antithetical to mine are a KEY component of his art. People do tend to tie their fandom of artists with their public life, or the character they present to the public. It's foolish because inevitably they always come up short. How much of Mel Gibson's global fandom was related to his supposed likeable everyguy persona he always put up in interviews? In what indication did you get of his anti-semitism or his short temper or openly sharing his opinion of women and black people when liquored up?
I might just be one of the few peoples who have no interest in "knowing" celebrities or meeting them. (I don't get autographs either.) Hey I like your music or movies, let's not complete that m'kay?
Lennon was a great musician, no doubt about that. But let's just leave it at that. (Seriously me and Lilo couldn't be fans/admirers of Prince if we let his infamous psychotic assholic reputation define if we can stand him or his music.).
Right. You can enjoy the music or art and just leave it there. I'm reading Buddy Guy's (ghostwritten??) autobiography and he has quite a few unpleasant anecdotes to share about various blues icons, most of whom are dead and can't rebut. It's matter of fact, not told in a salacious or gossipy manner. I disagree with people that say for example that because you enjoy Ike Turner music that you by definition support abusing women. Fortunately or unfortunately artistic talent is not only shared by morally upright people. That said I also don't think that just because you're talented you should get a pass when you do wrong. It's tricky, everyone has a different comfort zone. I thought the article about Lennon was interesting if only b/c he's essentially frozen in memory as Imagine/Give Peace a Chance/Beatles/etc while Brown is struggling against being defined as a violent brute, often by people who were never fans. It's like if I discovered that Buck Owens had been abusive to women (according to book I was browsing he was) and went around trying to define him as that and only that. It would be quite easy for me to be a self-righteous Knight Templar on that issue because I was never a fan in the first place. 
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Random Music News/Musings/Debates Thread
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10/13/12 10:46 AM
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I like the song.  Then again, I like the Stones. Can't hear a Stones tune without wanting to tap your feet, snap your fingers or get up and dance if you ask me. On the other hand tho, how long can they possibly continue though?  TIS
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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Random Music News/Musings/Debates Thread
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10/13/12 11:14 AM
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50 years, and the Rolling Stones still won't die.  Depends upon your interpretation of what "die" means  . Ha ha ha ha!!  I know. It's amazing isn't it? The guy looks like death warmed over and he keeps rockin'. I talked my daughter into going with me to see their movie, "Shine A Light" a couple years ago because I just love their music. We both got a kick out of how totally burnt out Richards looked AND the dangly little ornaments he wore in his hair.  Still, damn their music is good. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Random Music News/Musings/Debates Thread
[Re: Giancarlo]
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10/18/12 09:04 PM
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I heard on the radio today that one of their concerts will be a "pay for view".  Don't know any details. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Random Music News/Musings/Debates Thread
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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01/03/13 08:07 PM
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Interview with bassist Andrew Gouche, who revealed he played on several tracks for Prince's new album out later this year.
http://www.printfriendly.com/print/v2?url=http://bassmusicianmagazine.com/2013/01/andrew-gouche-the-power-of-soul-by-steve-gregory-bass-musician-magazine-january-2013/ Nice. Thanks for posting this. Walter Hawkins, John P Kee, Joe Sample, and of course James Cleveland are BIG names. Gospel bass can be fun because usually the organ is already holding down the bass lines. So a good bassist can have a lot of freedom. Or he can try to stay out of the organist's way...  Larry Graham created his idiosyncratic style in part by avoiding the parts his mother was already playing on organ and instead trying to imitate drum parts..
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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