Cause they news of him being extradited would have been circulating already. He's out in 2 months.

It's a pity. He would make a nice addition to the collection we already have gathered from other continents (Caruana, the Cun-treras, Rosario Gambino, soon also Vito Roberto Palazzolo)

Ice crewm an?

You mean the Rizzutos weren't extorting Montreal business owners? There's tons of evidence of their two enforcers, Del Balso and Giordano, extorting, beating, killing.

Domenico Arcuri, the elder one, who "inherited" a Montreal ice cream business from Paolo Violi. I'm not sure if his son, who presumably conspired with Montagna, is now running this business.

The Rizzuto's are/were most certainly extorting Italians/Italian Canadians. That's just silly to assume other wise. The Mafia's main targets for protection rackets have been their own kind.

Really? Do you really think they will let him walk out the front gate(and get in his limo)? That would be good for the headlines, and the forums.

They were mostly extorting from illegal rackets and drugs. They invested and worked alongside legitimate business owners to turn profits in legal business like construction.

I agree with most of you guys: it doesn't seem like "the war" is over for good. Maybe for the next few months, but... The second half of this article attempts to decipher what can happen in the next few months, while also legitimizing the Calabrian power and influence in Canada since Vito's incarceration, notably in the Toronto/Woodbridge areas. Enjoy--

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/05/mob-chieftains-return-sparks-concerns

The writer states that the other two names of the suspects arrested for the murder of Montagna were unnamed, which is incorrect. The other names, besides Mirarchi, Racaniello and Desjardins are Calogero Milioto and Pietro Magistrale. Magistrale was later released. Desjardins nephew Hugo Desjardins was also arrested for possession of a firearm.

Also, the article lingers on the theory of Calabrian groups being behind it. Montagna or any other individuals in Montreal, most of whom are connected to the New York Bonanno family, wouldn't necessarily need support from Calabrian groups outside Montreal to make a move inside Montreal.

I think Montagna's trips to Toronto were only meant to consult with individuals or groups with ties to the Rizzuto family in Montreal. Without doing so he could have risked retaliation.

I tell you what, I cant wait for this war to end and a book to be written about it.

Sonny:

We don't know what Montagna was doing in Toronto. In my long post in the "Mob chieftain's return sparks concerns" thread, I declared that Montreal is still the hub for Italian organized crime in Canada, as I don't believe Toronto has taken over the top spot. (Nor do I subscribe to the theory that a coalition of crime groups in Ontario took over.) But Toronto is still an important centre of Italian organized-crime activity in Canada. Always has been.

The Rizzuto organization has long-established roots in Toronto and other cities in Ontario. The Rizzutos have always had blood relatives, close paesani, and criminal associates in the Toronto area. Lee Lamothe, co-author of The Sixth Family, once posted on the Real Deal about how the Rizzuto organization also consisted of Calabrian crime cells -- he was probably referring to the Toronto-area Commissos, the Musitano group in Hamilton, and 'ndranghetisti living in Montreal who probably are part of the Siderno Group in the Toronto area.

Mostly everyone of significance that Montagna could have talked to in Toronto -- whether members of Sicilian Cosa Nostra, of the 'ndrangheta, etc. -- would have tipped off the Rizzuto organization about his intentions. But I would agree with you that he could have talked with select individuals in the Toronto area (whose names have never appeared in books or articles) and with people who would have no love for the Rizzutos, e.g., Paolo Violi's sons and nephews (Violi's brothers' sons). The Mafia inc. co-authors stated only that Violi's sons were not opposed to Sergio Piccirilli's murderous desires, not that Violi's sons were behind the murders of Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, and Agostino Cun trera.

I suspect Montagna already knew people in the Toronto area before he ever chose Montreal as the city to which he would be deported. But the theory his trips to Ontario must have been to plot the ouster of the Rizzutos is as tenouous as the theory that Vito Rizzuto's meetings with Pat Musitano in 1997 meant Vito and other Montrealers wanted John Papalia killed.

I'm thinking that if Montagna was behind Agostino Cun trera's murder then he might have consulted some of the Cun trera-Caruanas in Toronto first, in order to seek permission. He might also have consulted Giacinto Arcuri, because of his relation with the Arcuris in Montreal.

Update on Raynald Desjardins Trial: trial is put on hold until Sept.14th to give the defence a chance to analyze data.

Vittorio Mirarchi bail hearing set for Sept.19-21

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2012/08/07/les-procedures-sont-reportees-en-septembre