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Re: Election 2012
[Re: klydon1]
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07/19/12 12:25 PM
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The Italian Stallionette
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The tax returns issue is strangling Romney right now. He should probably name his VP choice soon on a week day (if he has already selected one) just to take some wind out of the tax stories.
What's in those returns must bepretty damaging if Mitt thinks not disclosing them is better for the campaign than coming clean. And his wife was just on tv saying "YOU PEOPLE have all you need to know." TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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07/20/12 10:39 AM
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[quote=klydon1]And his wife was just on tv saying "YOU PEOPLE have all you need to know." TIS She came off as a modern day Marie Antoinette. I don't fault her so much, but she should have been prepared better for the interview. I thought it was curious that she said the tax returns would show how generous Romney is as he's donated 10% of earnings to the Mormon Church and other charities. This would be all the more reason he should release them. The excuse that the Democrats would only twist the returns and attack them seems very hollow. One thing I agree with Mitt is his indifference to the puffed up outrage over the opening day Olympic uniforms being made in China. Maybe it's because when he ran the 2002 winter games, the uniforms were made in Burma, but I commend him for being candid on the issue and not rushing to wave the flag.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: klydon1]
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07/20/12 11:50 AM
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[quote=klydon1]And his wife was just on tv saying "YOU PEOPLE have all you need to know." TIS She came off as a modern day Marie Antoinette. I don't fault her so much, but she should have been prepared better for the interview. Well, in the inimitable words of Lina Lamont: "If we bring a little joy into your humdrum lives we feel as though our hard work ain't been in vain for nothing."
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: klydon1]
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07/28/12 12:47 PM
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Today Mr. Romney takes his one-man Offend the World Tour to Israel. Stand by. I can't help but think of: " Holiday Roooooooooooad, Holiday road." Cracks me up.  TIS
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"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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07/28/12 01:44 PM
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Today Mr. Romney takes his one-man Offend the World Tour to Israel. Stand by. I can't help but think of: " Holiday Roooooooooooad, Holiday road." Cracks me up.  TIS Yes. Romney will probbaly ask to visit the Wally Wall.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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07/29/12 01:16 PM
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Like it was McCain's decision!  She was foisted on him, and my understanding is that it was against his very strong objections. I've always wondered what our history might have been if McCain had won the Republican nomination instead of W.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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07/29/12 01:52 PM
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Like it was McCain's decision!  She was foisted on him, and my understanding is that it was against his very strong objections. I've always wondered what our history might have been if McCain had won the Republican nomination instead of W. We would not have had foreign policy dictated by Cheney and Rumsfeld, and we would not have gone to war looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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07/29/12 09:20 PM
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We were happy enough to outsource our jobs for years when it was in dirty, smelly manufacturing. Now that we are outsourcing white collar customer service, IT, legal and even medical jobs, we're all in an uproar.
While jobs may continue to disappear overseas, the US is not issuing work visas as they once were. My husband's company has numerous workers from India at his company. If they go home to visit, they will not be able to come back. Also, if they are let go and sent back, a replacement from India will not be allowed in. They recently were able to bring someone over because they have a data center in Europe, so someone was sent originally from India working in Europe and was then allowed to work here. Not sure how long until that loophole is closed.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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07/29/12 10:12 PM
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I watched John Stossel on Fox yesterday (he came over years ago from ABC). He interviewed Art Cardin who is a financial expert. Art's theme was that outsourcing of jobs is a good thing and Stossel agreed with him.
Now, I wonder if that segment would have aired if Mitt Romney was not accused of outsourcing jobs as CEO of Bain Capital?
Stossel also interviewed Senator Barosso (R) of Wyoming about how the (get this) EPA was killing people. Barosso figures that people who are unemployed are subject to high blood pressure, strokes, etc. and are unemployed, in part, because of EPA regulations.  You cant even make this stuff up its so outlandish.
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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07/30/12 01:26 PM
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Like it was McCain's decision!  She was foisted on him, and my understanding is that it was against his very strong objections. I've always wondered what our history might have been if McCain had won the Republican nomination instead of W. The only insider account of the Palin decision I know of is the book and later the HBO movie "Game Change," and it it McCain is seen as choosing her because she was his best shot to win the election. I am sure he never gave much thought to the possibility he would die in office, just cause he's John McCain (See also George H.W. Bush and his Veep pick) . I think McCain would have made a better president than Bush because he is naturally curious and no doubt would have seen the famous August Al Queada memo about using airplanes to attack buildings. I also think he had a more "human" quality, and probably would have gone to the Katrina victims sooner. As for the economy, he may not have cut taxes the way Bush did, but I think the crisis of 2008 was going to happen no matter who was in the white house. Everyone was making way too much money on the housing bubble.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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07/30/12 01:52 PM
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Very true, but the first war in Iraq was, and it was a devastating blow to the Middle Eastern countries. I always thought it was a mistake for that administration to have left Saddam in power and often wonder how much of the attacks were personal. Just a "what if", certainly not trying to assign blame or point fingers. It's one of those, where would we be today IF.... If McCain won the Republican nomination in 2000, I don't know if he'd have beaten Gore, who actually received more votes than W. I thought that while McCain may have made a better president than Bush, I think Bush was a much better and more effective campaigner than McCain. Similarly I've always thought that Bob Dole would have been an effective cief executive, but he had electability problems. I think Dole was designed more like a prime minister than a president.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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07/30/12 03:59 PM
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Very true, but the first war in Iraq was, and it was a devastating blow to the Middle Eastern countries. I always thought it was a mistake for that administration to have left Saddam in power and often wonder how much of the attacks were personal. Just a "what if", certainly not trying to assign blame or point fingers. It's one of those, where would we be today IF.... What does Saddam have to do with Al-Qaida? 9/11 had nothing to do with that war. The rise of Al Qaida had nothing to do with that war. They just saw the US as the ultimate evil. They didn't care who was in the White House. Remember, the 1st attack of the WTC was when Clinton was in office.
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