Yea,but we are talking the 80's ! People were shooting each other up and believed in the power of the mob!i mean this guy operated open in a city ! It wouldn't surprise me if family associates accepted his edge money!

but what would of new york or Pittsburgh or cleveland for that matter gained by clipping him?

The blacks un the streets in very town n the countryy, along with themexicans. Do you expect 80 year old men to be out on the street? [/quote]

the blacks do not run the west side of Cleveland!

Do they even ever set foot in the west side?

All kidding aside though, I've heard from a couple sources that the biggest gangsters in Cleveland now are Croatians. Have you heard anything about that?

I uave grown up in the delta my whole life, im used to it.

Do they even ever set foot in the west side?

All kidding aside though, I've heard from a couple sources that the biggest gangsters in Cleveland now are Croatians. Have you heard anything about that? [/quote]




yes blacks go to the westside some even reside there they just dont run it.


I have heard a few people say that. I can tell you from my experience they are more bark then bite. But many of them are in the rackets tight knit group. I used to sell drugs to a crew of them out of Parma and they inturn sold to there guys. They were kinda flashy and always chirped at the mouth. This group of about six loved hookers I am not sure if they were running the women or not. I didn't think much of them either way . I never really liked hanging out with them kinda of annoying. Despite the big bank scandal at that credit union the guy got busted got 20 years i think. In my opinion they are not the biggest gangsters in the area.

Quite a few gangs in the cleveland area.
latin kings
Houghton Heights Gang
broadway kings
there also gangster disciples , vice lords, folks

There are also local gangs who I would guess have more of a presence. The madison madhouse was one of the biggest on the westside and 7 all on the eastside there are many others as well. But they dont have the infrastructure to run shit out side of there turf.

So how much money is being made between the ten guys? On the cleveland mob website it says the cleveland is still making $30 million annually...seems unrealistic...confirm? How much is it worth now?

I'd be surprised if Barney is even worth $30 mil.

Cleveland mob.com is hardly credible, let alone the $30 million figure
There are two confirmed made guys, Joe Iacobacci and RJ Papalardo...confirmed made guys. Joe Loose lives in his parents house and RJ sells real estate, lives in a tiny little bungalow across the street from Jimmy DiMora. They've been done since the 1990's, remnants still there, but haven't had a structured family since around 1993. Check out Allan May and Rick Porello's work, both the foremost a experts on Cleveland.

But as literally everyone says, at least they ain't from Utah!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_Utah

Yeah, such a ridiculous number and def uncredible. Agreed.

jcb1977 You are full of shit on RJP. TINY BUNGALOW???? he has a 6000 sq foot home.

Loose parents have both passed away. He now resides in that house. Its a decent house( middle class) Remember loose is a career gangster and he didnt give a shit who knew. He has nothing in his name. HE lives a life of leisure. Does he have a pile of cash he is sitting who knows. He sure isn't that flashy outside of his newer caddy.

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RJ also owned another home that he was staying at for quite some time, it was a smaller home, around 1700 sq ft.

His address is 4440 Ammon Road, Cleveland OH

3 bd / 1.5 ba / 1,657 sqft
Single-Family Home

His other home was at 7253 Forestwood Dr
Independence, OH 44131, which was 5700 sq ft if he still owns that one.

Papalardo is actually a "really good" real estate agent, could have been very successful if he was legitimate...He is a very smart, capable guy.

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Let me rephrase it: If he was completely legitimate, he possibly could have been successful without ill gotten gains.

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I saw RJP at the benefit for Sonny Geraci on Friday night, sitting at a table in the very front.

JCB, I've lurked here for close to two years, mainly based on your knowledge of Cleveland & around. Fascinated. Thank you & keep it coming!

LOL! Look at Fraudo, responding to an almost 2 year old post. Late to the table, as usual. And you continue to pretend you still don't hold a grudge.

I call those people "risky but visionary"

No problem man, pm me if you ever have any questions and I'll do my best to answer them.

lol I don't hold a grudge Jared, I just can't believe that someone who lives in a state like Utah where blowjobs are illegal has room to mock other cities.

You once told us all you never broke the law because you are religious and a probation officer for teenagers...does that mean you've never gotten a hummer? I don't hold a grudge my friend because I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Don't hold a grudge, my ass. I post a funny video somebody else made about Cleveland and you use that as an excuse to bring me up? You can't help yourself. Dude, you seriously need to just get over it. You are far and away the biggest crybaby on these boards. Whaaaaaaaaaaa!

Edit: And I should add this is the second time in the last little while you have hijacked a thread because you got your "feewings hewt."

C'mon man, no need to bash his religious beliefs.

So the answer is no...you have never had a blowjob in your life because they are illegal in your city.

I feel sorry for you my friend...you would think all that Provo Utah "smack talk" and tough attitude you like to convey would be a hit with the women.

Mod, so who won the sitdown on this one? Cleveitalia or njguy?