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Re: Anthony Senter
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Tommy pitera is just as feared as roy and apperantly he was a dick to everyone he didnt give a fuck about the neighbourhood or anyone other than making money No one was as feared as Demeo and his crew . That's why anytime someone from that crew had to be whacked the crew itself did it , no one would take the contracts . Tonny Karate was an animal though . I've heard horror stories about him .
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Re: Anthony Senter
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Pitera enjoyed killing people, I don't think Demeo 'enjoyed' it. Demeo was broken for a period when he discovered he killed an innocent boy. One guy in Demeo's crew who really creeps me out is Chris Rosenberg. Some say he looks a bit goofy in his known picture, but I think he has that Last House On The Left/Texas Chainsaw Massacte-aura about him lol. He also ruthlessly butchered a couple of Colombians and a Cuban. Which, in those days, wasn't really a good career move. My Father , Brother, and Uncles , as well as pretty much anyone who knew him said Chris was a fucking asshole but loyal . They also said he was kind of a dirtbag and when everyone was going out to clubs and shit they always tried to ditch him . He caused a ton of problems for Roy but Roy had a lot of love for him . He really was that delusional though and thought he was gonna be the first Jew who got made . It was his fault that Roy ended up killing that Spanish kid by his house , because if he never robbed and killed the Columbians Roy wouldn't have thought there was a hit squad looking for him . Him starting that war over the drugs also verified to the rest of the family what they already knew and that was that Roy'a crew dealt drugs and Paul Castellano knew about it and kept taking the money no problem while he threatened Gotti and other crews that if they dealt drugs they'd be killed (something else that gives weight to the fact Paul was scared of the Gemini crew and he just hated Gotti )
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Re: Anthony Senter
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Chris Rosenberg. Some say he looks a bit goofy in his known picture, but I think he has that Last House On The Left/Texas Chainsaw Massacte-aura about him lol. He also ruthlessly butchered a couple of Colombians and a Cuban. Which, in those days, wasn't really a good career move. Chris Rosenberg is mentally disturbed. Examples of psychokinesis could include distorting or moving an object,[6] and influencing the output of a random number generator.[5][7][8]
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Re: Anthony Senter
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In your original post you said, "They weren't all the scumbags the books make them out to be." Who were you referring to? Just DiNome? Or Testa and Senter as well? Because you mentioned the latter two in the same post and there's no way you could apply what you said to those two. I'm with Ivy here, there is no honest justification for a bunch of amoral thugs, which essentially, is the primary definition for the DeMeo crew. These guys were cold-blooded killers. According to informant testimonies the crew, headed by Roy, would follow a sadistic cycle upon murdering their victims. The crew would first lure their victims to an apartment directly behind the Gemini Lounge where they were shot in the back of the head by Roy DeMeo and the head would be swiftly wrapped in a towel. Harvey "Chris" Rosenberg would then stab the victim in the heart to stop the bleeding. Then the body would be left to drain in a bathtub for 45 minutes. After the body was drained and chopped up it would be left in a garbage bags while Roy DeMeo and the crew would order a pizza and eat it with their unwashed bloody hands. Ultimately Roy DeMeo died the way he lived, as a street rat, in fetal position, in the trunk of his car. There is no sympathy or empathy from anyone including the Gambinos who he made so much money for over the years.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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Don't forget as well Senter shot an innocent girl to death too, remember that from murder machine. Despicable men.[/quo [quote=GaryH]The Albanians and Mexicans are very brutal but not as organised as the Italians or Yakuza Gary correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you buy Roy Demeo's tie off eBay ?
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Re: Anthony Senter
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Don't forget as well Senter shot an innocent girl to death too, remember that from murder machine. Despicable men.[/quo [quote=GaryH]The Albanians and Mexicans are very brutal but not as organised as the Italians or Yakuza Gary correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you buy Roy Demeo's tie off eBay ? Yep, thats true. Its more of a collectors item that *may* be worth something in a few years time. It didnt cost much. Think of it as being the same as people who collect Nazi memorabilia
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Re: Anthony Senter
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Don't forget as well Senter shot an innocent girl to death too, remember that from murder machine. Despicable men.[/quo [quote=GaryH]The Albanians and Mexicans are very brutal but not as organised as the Italians or Yakuza Gary correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you buy Roy Demeo's tie off eBay ? Yep, thats true. Its more of a collectors item that *may* be worth something in a few years time. It didnt cost much. Think of it as being the same as people who collect Nazi memorabilia Yeah I'm not knocking ya, I think his son has a store on there.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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In your original post you said, "They weren't all the scumbags the books make them out to be." Who were you referring to? Just DiNome? Or Testa and Senter as well? Because you mentioned the latter two in the same post and there's no way you could apply what you said to those two. I'm with Ivy here, there is no honest justification for a bunch of amoral thugs, which essentially, is the primary definition for the DeMeo crew. These guys were cold-blooded killers. According to informant testimonies the crew, headed by Roy, would follow a sadistic cycle upon murdering their victims. The crew would first lure their victims to an apartment directly behind the Gemini Lounge where they were shot in the back of the head by Roy DeMeo and the head would be swiftly wrapped in a towel. Harvey "Chris" Rosenberg would then stab the victim in the heart to stop the bleeding. Then the body would be left to drain in a bathtub for 45 minutes. After the body was drained and chopped up it would be left in a garbage bags while Roy DeMeo and the crew would order a pizza and eat it with their unwashed bloody hands. Ultimately Roy DeMeo died the way he lived, as a street rat, in fetal position, in the trunk of his car. There is no sympathy or empathy from anyone including the Gambinos who he made so much money for over the years. I think you are bit of on sadist part. They did not torture, they killed quickly. It's wrong, but not torture.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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What's with "Senter's" Italian ancestry? His last name came from the North with Italian immigrants, right?
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Anthony Senter
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Then the body would be left to drain in a bathtub for 45 minutes. After the body was drained and chopped up it would be left in a garbage bags while Roy DeMeo and the crew would order a pizza and eat it with their unwashed bloody hands. . Don't believe everything Capeci and Mustain tell you , especially when they are the words of a low life drug addict who was saying what he was saying to save his own ass and make everyone else involved look worse and himself look like an angel . Lastly Roy , and his crew for the most part were pretty boys/ladies men not to mention Roy was very careful so I'd guarantee they showered after a kill let alone washed their hands . The three ( Mustain, Capeci, Montiglio) of them told enough tall tales theres no need for you to make up your own . I highly doubt not to mention never read or heard from people who were around them that they sat and ate with blood all over their hands which makes sense being there was really nowhere to hide other than the bathroom in that apartment if someone came to the door ie pizza man , cops, neighbor . They were smarter than that , which is why they never got caught while Roy was running things .
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Re: Anthony Senter
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What's with "Senter's" Italian ancestry? His last name came from the North with Italian immigrants, right? Yes , only in Northern Italy will you find Italians without vowels at the end of their last names LOL . Some say the names got butchered at Ellis Island (highly possible) , some say it's because of the close proximity to Austria , Germany, & France (mating with non Italians ? That screws up the lineage when it comes time to be inducted/made no ?) which always raises the question whether or not certain families from Northern Italy are actually Italian by blood or just relocated during WW2 during the Hitler/Mussolini alliance . The name Senter actually sounds to me like it could be German or Austrian honestly .
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Re: Anthony Senter
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What's with "Senter's" Italian ancestry? His last name came from the North with Italian immigrants, right? Yes , only in Northern Italy will you find Italians without vowels at the end of their last names LOL . Wrong. This is a huge misconception. There are plenty of Italian as well as Sicilian surnames not ending in vowels, of people born and raised in Italy/Sicily. It's less common, but not UNcommon.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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Don't forget as well Senter shot an innocent girl to death too, remember that from murder machine. Despicable men.[/quo [quote=GaryH]The Albanians and Mexicans are very brutal but not as organised as the Italians or Yakuza Gary correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you buy Roy Demeo's tie off eBay ? Yep, thats true. Its more of a collectors item that *may* be worth something in a few years time. It didnt cost much. Think of it as being the same as people who collect Nazi memorabilia You know the "gore" collectors would love to buy Roy's old butcher tools. The ones he kept for use at the apartment at the Gemini. Someone should ask Albert where those babies are. lol. You know those bone saws of his saw plenty of use.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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You know the "gore" collectors would love to buy Roy's old butcher tools. The ones he kept for use at the apartment at the Gemini. Someone should ask Albert where those babies are. lol. You know those bone saws of his saw plenty of use. These are the same nuts who are dressing like the Batman gunman in Colorado. I saw a clip about these people on GMA this morning. It's crazy.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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[quote=IvyLeague]
Then the body would be left to drain in a bathtub for 45 minutes. After the body was drained and chopped up it would be left in a garbage bags while Roy DeMeo and the crew would order a pizza and eat it with their unwashed bloody hands. . Don't believe everything Capeci and Mustain tell you , especially when they are the words of a low life drug addict who was saying what he was saying to save his own ass and make everyone else involved look worse and himself look like an angel . All due respect, I am more inclined to believe and trust the information I have read concerning the DeMeo crew from published books, mob transcripts and witness testimonies over any word from a neighborhood guy. I know you're giving your perspective and everyone, including you, are entitled to your views on DeMeo and his crew but your views seem a little bias. Almost like you're defending these guys and what they did.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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[quote=IvyLeague]
Then the body would be left to drain in a bathtub for 45 minutes. After the body was drained and chopped up it would be left in a garbage bags while Roy DeMeo and the crew would order a pizza and eat it with their unwashed bloody hands. . Don't believe everything Capeci and Mustain tell you , especially when they are the words of a low life drug addict who was saying what he was saying to save his own ass and make everyone else involved look worse and himself look like an angel . All due respect, I am more inclined to believe and trust the information I have read concerning the DeMeo crew from published books, mob transcripts and witness testimonies over any word from a neighborhood guy. I know you're giving your perspective and everyone, including you, are entitled to your views on DeMeo and his crew but your views seem a little bias. Almost like you're defending these guys and what they did. Witnesses saw the negative side of them, of course they're not going to tell anything good about them. Published books are written by humans and most humans are just as biased regarding the life of (organized) criminals : Sometimes they are portrayed as the most glamorous beings to ever grace the earth, while in another book/movie they are portrayed as pure inhuman monsters. The truth is that they're neither of those.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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[quote=IvyLeague]
Then the body would be left to drain in a bathtub for 45 minutes. After the body was drained and chopped up it would be left in a garbage bags while Roy DeMeo and the crew would order a pizza and eat it with their unwashed bloody hands. . Don't believe everything Capeci and Mustain tell you , especially when they are the words of a low life drug addict who was saying what he was saying to save his own ass and make everyone else involved look worse and himself look like an angel . All due respect, I am more inclined to believe and trust the information I have read concerning the DeMeo crew from published books, mob transcripts and witness testimonies over any word from a neighborhood guy. I know you're giving your perspective and everyone, including you, are entitled to your views on DeMeo and his crew but your views seem a little bias. Almost like you're defending these guys and what they did. He did not seem to defend what they did at all, he gave us another side to story, and example of how they were in other aspects everyday life. I thought it was good info.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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What's with "Senter's" Italian ancestry? His last name came from the North with Italian immigrants, right? Yes , only in Northern Italy will you find Italians without vowels at the end of their last names LOL . Wrong. This is a huge misconception. There are plenty of Italian as well as Sicilian surnames not ending in vowels, of people born and raised in Italy/Sicily. It's less common, but not UNcommon. It's common in Northern Italy , you won't find many if any in Southern Italy . Sorry but you won't convince me other wise , my fathers family comes from Naples , and my mothers from Sicily and I've frequented both places my entire life and the few Italians I've met without vowels come from Northern Italy .
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Re: Anthony Senter
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[quote=IvyLeague]
Then the body would be left to drain in a bathtub for 45 minutes. After the body was drained and chopped up it would be left in a garbage bags while Roy DeMeo and the crew would order a pizza and eat it with their unwashed bloody hands. . Don't believe everything Capeci and Mustain tell you , especially when they are the words of a low life drug addict who was saying what he was saying to save his own ass and make everyone else involved look worse and himself look like an angel . All due respect, I am more inclined to believe and trust the information I have read concerning the DeMeo crew from published books, mob transcripts and witness testimonies over any word from a neighborhood guy. I know you're giving your perspective and everyone, including you, are entitled to your views on DeMeo and his crew but your views seem a little bias. Almost like you're defending these guys and what they did. All due respect but you seem to have your own take on my stories which is fine , but nowhere have I defended any of the actions of the Gemini crew . I simply told a story from a different perspective .. MY PERSPECTIVE from what I PERSONALLY experienced or what my family witnessed hanging around those guys and told me (which I figured was something nice to share being I'm sure most people on here didn't grow up a few doors down and see these people on a daily basis and have family who worked close with them or arrested them) . You can believe what you want but in this equation I'm the only one who has ZERO to gain . The writers beef up their stories to sell more books for financial gain (see Philip Carlo) , the government witnesses beef up their story for the DA's case and tell a gory story and make themselves look like the angel or guy along for the ride with these "monsters" in order to save their asses and help with a conviction . As for the district attorney see government witness (no need for me to retype) . It's a moot point , you're not gonna convince me and I have no desire to convince anyone . What these men did was horrible , but to me they were family, neighbors, friends who never did a thing to harm me or anyone in the neighborhood .
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Re: Anthony Senter
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What's with "Senter's" Italian ancestry? His last name came from the North with Italian immigrants, right? Yes , only in Northern Italy will you find Italians without vowels at the end of their last names LOL . Wrong. This is a huge misconception. There are plenty of Italian as well as Sicilian surnames not ending in vowels, of people born and raised in Italy/Sicily. It's less common, but not UNcommon. It's common in Northern Italy , you won't find many if any in Southern Italy . Sorry but you won't convince me other wise , my fathers family comes from Naples , and my mothers from Sicily and I've frequented both places my entire life and the few Italians I've met without vowels come from Northern Italy . Sorry, but you said ONLY in Northern Italy. Now you change your tune. Enough said. Your father's family blah blah blah...my husband is born and raised in Sicily, my father is from Sicily, and I'm in Sicily for the past 16 years or more of my life.
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Re: Anthony Senter
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It's common in Northern Italy , you won't find many if any in Southern Italy . Sorry but you won't convince me other wise , my fathers family comes from Naples , and my mothers from Sicily and I've frequented both places my entire life and the few Italians I've met without vowels come from Northern Italy .
Sorry, but you said ONLY in Northern Italy. Now you change your tune. Enough said. Your father's family blah blah blah...my husband is born and raised in Sicily, my father is from Sicily, and I'm in Sicily for the past 16 years or more of my life. [/quote] I didnt change my tune , I said EXACTLY the same thing I said in the first post . Read it again
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