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Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: Imamobguy] #659646
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I would take ANYTHING that Joe Bonanno said with a grain of salt. He's a self-promoter without peer.


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Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: Imamobguy] #659648
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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
Let me tell you the real person behind JFK'S assassination. I did a talk with Daniel Bonanno who is Joe Bonanno's son. Daniel had said that his father had a talk with him in the early 2001 when he was aged about 96 or 95. Joseph Bonanno had said that he was the main guy behind the JFK assassination due to the fact, JFK was too much of a risk to Cosa Nostra and he was a government guy. Joseph Bonanno had 5 hitmen incase the main Hitman missed and failed. Joseph sent 1 guy from the Five Families so if it went wrong that guy and his family would be blamed for the fault so it would be clear who did it. Roselli also played along with Joe Bonanno, Joe thought of this idea and Roselli planned it all out. Wikipedia is all wrong but Cosa Nostra, Wikipedia is only linked to Newspaper and Website articles by references.


Which Joe Bonanno are you talking about? Joe Bonanno, the boss? He never had a son named Daniel.
If the Mafia was involved in killing JFK, the killers most probably had a connection with the Tampa-New Orleans-Chicago axis.
What Bill Bonanno said in his book about Roselli telling him shooting the President may be the truth. However, Roselli´s "confession" to Bonanno most likely was not. Bonanno was only talking about what was told to him. So it´s not Bonanno´s account that needs to be scrutinized, but Roselli´s.

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Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: botz] #659673
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i read all fingers point at lyndon b. johnson and hoover. jfk was gonna make his brother head of the fbi and when he ran again for president he was gonna have a new vp, thats all you need to know. maybe they brought carlos marcello in on it because alot of wise guys were upset with him after the killing.

Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: Imamobguy] #659703
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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
Let me tell you the real person behind JFK'S assassination. I did a talk with Daniel Bonanno who is Joe Bonanno's son. Daniel had said that his father had a talk with him in the early 2001 when he was aged about 96 or 95. Joseph Bonanno had said that he was the main guy behind the JFK assassination due to the fact, JFK was too much of a risk to Cosa Nostra and he was a government guy. Joseph Bonanno had 5 hitmen incase the main Hitman missed and failed. Joseph sent 1 guy from the Five Families so if it went wrong that guy and his family would be blamed for the fault so it would be clear who did it. Roselli also played along with Joe Bonanno, Joe thought of this idea and Roselli planned it all out. Wikipedia is all wrong but Cosa Nostra, Wikipedia is only linked to Newspaper and Website articles by references.


Huh?

Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: botz] #659704
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When he says he "did a talk with Daniel Bonanno" he means he read this guys facebook page and website. Daniel is supposedly an alias. I saw this a long time ago and read around a bit. The guy can't get enough of himself and certainly won't quit talking.

https://www.facebook.com/danielbonnano.torbitt


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Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: botz] #660841
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Na, it was just LHO as lone gunman: http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/concl.htm. An interesting figure, there may be more to the story, but probably not. And the alleged Chicago-election riggings were already debunked some years ago by John Binder.
Nothing cinematic, just a nut with a gun.

Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: botz] #660944
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Daniel is an adpoted son of Bill. Either way, Bill was behind JFK'S assassination.

Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: Imamobguy] #660950
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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
Daniel is an adpoted son of Bill. Either way, Bill was behind JFK'S assassination.


Why are you so willing to believe the Bonannos? The only proof Bill had anything to do with it is his own word.

Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: Camarel] #660952
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So you would take an Author of FBI Agent's word than someone who was a Boss who was on The Commission and you call him a lier but not Author's. The Bonanno's wouldnt lie, Joseph wouldnt lie when he was 97. Joe cared about his past and somethings were false to make him not look like a very bad guy. Sorry, I meant Joseph.

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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
So you would take an Author of FBI Agent's word than someone who was a Boss who was on The Commission and you call him a lier but not Author's. The Bonanno's wouldnt lie, Joseph wouldnt lie when he was 97. Joe cared about his past and somethings were false to make him not look like a very bad guy. Sorry, I meant Joseph.


If Joe cared so much about his past why was he writing a book about lcn in the first place. I don't know what FBI agents book you're talking about but i haven't read it.The Bonannos wouldn't lie lol you crack me up. You staate as fact what happened to JFK as fact with nothing to go on other than the Bonannos word.

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Joe wanted a book made about him. I think it was a great idea, A boss writing a book is great. Joe was never arrested or suspected in a serious crime only arrested for 14 months and only fined once $450. Why do you question Joseph's knowledge in Cosa Nostra. Joe didnt reveal all the Secrets because they would give the Feds a foot further, It actually did give them a foot further. Joe didnt want to be looked at as a Killer. I cant believe you wouldnt believe a Boss but you would believe an Author and compare an Author to a Boss who reigned for 34 years and an Author who was wrote 4 book's, You believe an author? Hahaha. You believe John Roselli was behind the Assassination because the FBI said so? Wow. Bonanno thought of the Idea and Roselli made it happen with his Connection's within the Mob. I havent read the Bonanno Book either but Joe wouldnt lie, He wasnt like that. Joseph said what was needed to be made in a Book, Believe him or Not. I know I do because he was a Powerful and Wise man brought up to be Loyal and Honest. When you get older you tend not to lie even at the age of 97. The FBI believe him in the stuff they know not the stuff he knows personally.

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Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: Imamobguy] #660960
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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
Joe wanted a book made about him. I think it was a great idea, A boss writing a book is great. Joe was never arrested or suspected in a serious crime only arrested for 14 months and only fined once $450. Why do you question Joseph's knowledge in Cosa Nostra. Joe didnt reveal all the Secrets because they would give the Feds a foot further, It actually did give them a foot further. Joe didnt want to be looked at as a Killer. I cant believe you wouldnt believe a Boss but you would believe an Author and compare an Author to a Boss who reigned for 34 years and an Author who was wrote 4 book's, You believe an author? Hahaha. You believe John Roselli was behind the Assassination because the FBI said so? Wow. Bonanno thought of the Idea and Roselli made it happen with his Connection's within the Mob. I havent read the Bonanno Book either but Joe wouldnt lie, He wasnt like that. Joseph said what was needed to be made in a Book, Believe him or Not. I know I do because he was a Powerful and Wise man brought up to be Loyal and Honest. When you get older you tend not to lie even at the age of 97. The FBI believe him in the stuff they know not the stuff he knows personally.


What author that's wrote 4 books? I don't believe the mafia (even Roselli) had anything to do with it. Cmon Joe wouldnt lie, He wasnt like that are you serious he was a criminal how can you say he was above lying .When you get older you tend not to lie even at the age of 97 that's just ridiculous . Can you please tell me why you believe Joe other than he was 97 he wouldn't lie?

Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: Camarel] #660962
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"An Author with 4 books" was an example. 34 years compared 10 books, whatever. Cosa Nostra had a major part in JFKs assassination, JFK associated with the Mob and was killed because they couldnt take the risk. Joseph wouldnt lie at age 97, Joe wasnt that desperate to lie. Jo knew he was going to die soon and I dont see why an 97 year old would like, No purpose in that. People aged 100 dont need to lie at that age, They can put with it when you are younger you lie more to not get in much trouble being that age and knowing your going to pass soon you just couldnt give two shits.

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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
"An Author with 4 books" was an example. 34 years compared 10 books, whatever. Cosa Nostra had a major part in JFKs assassination, JFK associated with the Mob and was killed because they couldnt take the risk. Joseph wouldnt lie at age 97, Joe wasnt that desperate to lie. Jo knew he was going to die soon and I dont see why an 97 year old would like, No purpose in that. People aged 100 dont need to lie at that age, They can put with it when you are younger you lie more to not get in much trouble being that age and knowing your going to pass soon you just couldnt give two shits.


I may be wrong but was Bill not the one who claimed the stuff about JFK. I've never anything about Joe talking about JFK (97 or not). Can you please tell me how you can state as fact that LCN had a major part in JFKs death ?

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JB's age has nothing to do with it. His ego was so big that he'd lie until the day until the day he died because he worried about his "legacy."


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Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: pizzaboy] #661125
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
JB's age has nothing to do with it. His ego was so big that he'd lie until the day until the day he died because he worried about his "legacy."


Thank you good sir tongue

Re: John Roselli Kennedy assassination [Re: Camarel] #661171
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Okay. If it was a mad man then that mad man wouldnt of done it so succesfully and would of shot JFK down below in the crowd. Cosa Nostra tend to be professionals. JFK associated with the Mob alot, JFK's brother also did too but stopped after he was killed and believed Cosa Nostra had a big role in his older brother's death. 97 has something to do with the fact he wouldnt lie, Someone aged 97 isnt desperte and doesnt need to lie. Bonanno was a man of honour and wouldnt of lied thats it, You believe the FBI's word but not a boss.. Very sad.

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regardless of who killed JFK, i think that we can all agree that the official story has so many holes in it that it should be called swiss cheese!


It's either blue cheese with wings or go fuck yer mudda!
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Jack Ruby denied he was part of a conspiracy a couple of times, once on his deathbed and another time when he tried to talk to Warren Commission. A deathbed confession was the perfect time to come clean but he still denied a conspiracy.

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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
Okay. If it was a mad man then that mad man wouldnt of done it so succesfully and would of shot JFK down below in the crowd. Cosa Nostra tend to be professionals. JFK associated with the Mob alot, JFK's brother also did too but stopped after he was killed and believed Cosa Nostra had a big role in his older brother's death. 97 has something to do with the fact he wouldnt lie, Someone aged 97 isnt desperte and doesnt need to lie. Bonanno was a man of honour and wouldnt of lied thats it, You believe the FBI's word but not a boss.. Very sad.


Can you please show me where you read RFK believed the mafia had a big role in his brothers death . Was it not Bill who said all this about JFK ? i've never heard anything Joe was saying but i may be wrong . 97 has something to do with the fact he wouldnt lie, you can say it all you want it doesn't make it a fact.

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Joe 'Bananas' Bonnano would NEVER lie!? Are you kidding me. He told Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes (and the entire world) that he was not involved in selling drugs. The Bonnano Family during Joe's reign was one of the biggest heroin importers in the US. For chrissakes his underboss Carmine Galante did umpteen years in the pen for a heroin conviction. Later Galante was murderd over the heroin business. Joe wouldn't lie my ass. He was probably trying to get his memoir re-printed. LFMAO


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I keep getting confused about Joe and Bill. I love debating agaisnt the whole fuckin' village.

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'What are they hiding?': Group sues Biden and National Archives over JFK assassination records

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hiding-group-sues-biden-national-120028563.html

The JFK records act, signed by President Bill Clinton, required that the documents be made public by Oct. 26, 2017, but President Donald Trump delayed the release and kicked the can to Biden, who critics say continued the policy of federal obfuscation that has existed since Kennedy was assassinated Nov. 22, 1963, in an open motorcade at Dealey Plaza in Dallas.

“It’s high time that the government got its act together and obeyed the spirit and the letter of the law,” said the vice president of the nonpartisan Mary Ferrell Foundation, Jefferson Morley, an expert on the assassination and the CIA.

“This is about our history and our right to know it,” said Morley, the author of the JFK Facts blog.


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All the files were released. It sounds like Morley is just trying to keep his blog relevant.

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