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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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08/29/12 08:23 PM
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A good analysis. One thng for members to keep in mind is that the FY 2009 federal budget was prepared by the Bush Administration. Prepearation of federal budgets by the Obama Administration did not begin until FY 2010.
In any case, most people focus on the increase in the National Debt. They don't realize that it is funded debt the interest payments on which only amount to about 6% of the annual federal budget. Yep, I am a numbers/data guy. I generally support Democratic candidates but have voted Republican a few times in my short voting career. I personally try and cut through all the BS coming from either side and just look at the raw data and come to my own conclusion on what is going on. The big deciding factors for me are candidate's tax plans and their proposed economic agendas. Then Social programs (social security, medicare, etc) and education, then foreign policy/national security. I personally dont really care much about social issues (abortion, gay marriage) because I think the government shouldnt be sticking their nose in that arena so in that respect I am pro-choice and support gay marriage (which I used to be against).
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: klydon1]
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08/30/12 01:12 PM
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The two nut throwers were removed from the arena...and offered their own talk shows on FOX News. I think it's a fake hate crime. Why else would the story die down so quickly? It has been two days and we have heard nothing more, which is very suspicious.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Lilo]
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08/30/12 01:16 PM
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Just like the story about the Tea Party surrounding a black congressman when Obamacare was passed and using the "N" word. But the story was never confirmed nor caught on video in an age when just about everything is. After the Duke Lacrosse fiasco(and even Tawana Brawley), you really have to be skeptical about many of these stories.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/30/12 07:43 PM
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SB, You're absolutely right. AND, who do they get as their "surprise" speaker tonight? An old white guy: Clint Eastwood. TIS
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/30/12 11:26 PM
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No, you really don't. There are disgusting people of all walks of life. Glad these were dealt with handily.
Please note my comments above, though. We searched and searched every shot of the crowd and couldn't find one Asian, one Latino, but finally spotted one black man in the crowd. Thousands of people, and they're all white? How does that represent America? Sounds like the racial makeup of a Yankees home game.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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08/30/12 11:35 PM
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We searched and searched every shot of the crowd and couldn't find one Asian, one Latino, but finally spotted one black man in the crowd. Thousands of people, and they're all white? How does that represent America? Sounds like the racial makeup of a Yankees home game. The Yankees aren't running for the country's highest position. By not including a large segment of the nation's population at their convention they are doing themselves a lot of harm. One Condi Rice just doesn't cut it.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: SC]
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08/30/12 11:43 PM
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We searched and searched every shot of the crowd and couldn't find one Asian, one Latino, but finally spotted one black man in the crowd. Thousands of people, and they're all white? How does that represent America? Sounds like the racial makeup of a Yankees home game. The Yankees aren't running for the country's highest position. By not including a large segment of the nation's population at their convention they are doing themselves a lot of harm. One Condi Rice just doesn't cut it. Ok. And if there were a lot of blacks in the crowd, you all would be crying they're plants, nothing more than window dressing for show. Blacks aren't a "large segment" of the population. That's why they're called a "minority". Perhaps you missed the Mia Love speech? Yeah. I'm sure you did. Or Marco Rubio? I think he's a minority. Susana Martinez? Pienso que ella es Latina!
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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08/30/12 11:51 PM
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Ok. And if there were a lot of blacks in the crowd, you all would be crying they're plants, nothing more than window dressing for show.
Blacks aren't a "large segment" of the population. Don't make the mistake of trying to talk for me. Blacks and Latinos make up over 25% of the population. I'd call that a large segment.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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08/30/12 11:52 PM
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Well, the Fox pundits were underwhelmed again just like they were about Christie's speech. Megyn Kelly just said that "tonight he was Romney and we'll find out if that is good enough for the country." Extremists watch Fox News. People who watch that network are either extreme conservatives who live and die by the gospel according to Hannity, or extreme liberals looking for anything to pick apart. One should be able to listen to the speeches and draw their own conclusions without help.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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08/31/12 12:06 AM
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And I don't see how you can look at the crowd tonight and conclude racism without doing the same to sporting events, or even this board? How many African Americans post here? Are we a bunch of white racists because we congregate on a message board where I'll bet minorities, blacks in particular are underrepresented. I don't understand how you can even compare the two, but then again I don't understand how anyone can support the Republican agenda.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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08/31/12 06:37 AM
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Washington Post Article āThe demographics race weāre losing badly,ā said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). āWeāre not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.ā Black Republican's take on convention When I came into the party with George H.W. Bush, there was a pipeline of other African Americans who worked for the Republican National Committee in the headquarters, staffers who worked for Reagan, etc. We are now some of the most experienced operatives in the game; many of us have our own firms or work for corporate America. Unfortunately, we are never consulted on party issues unless there is an overtly black angle or, more typically, someone in the party leadership has done something stupid and they expect us to go on camera to provide cover.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungleāas old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: dontomasso]
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08/31/12 11:05 AM
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What was that Clint Eastwood thing about? Ha ha ha! It took me a few minutes to realize he was talking to the empty chair. I was wondering what the hell he was doing. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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08/31/12 11:39 AM
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What was that Clint Eastwood thing about? Ha ha ha! It took me a few minutes to realize he was talking to the empty chair. I was wondering what the hell he was doing. TIS I think he is still backstage talking to the water cooler.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: dontomasso]
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08/31/12 11:58 AM
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What was that Clint Eastwood thing about? Ha ha ha! It took me a few minutes to realize he was talking to the empty chair. I was wondering what the hell he was doing. TIS I think he is still backstage talking to the water cooler.  I liked the idea of having him appear and speak, but the idea of an old man talking to an empty chair on stage was kind of bizarre.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: SC]
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08/31/12 12:19 PM
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And it is a valid comparison. Don't say the GOP is racist because blacks don't attend their convention and then say black absence in other aspects of life is not relevant. Again, I cannot follow any logic in your thinking. It makes total sense. Absence of blacks should mean racist crowd whether it's a political gathering, sporting event, message board one likes to frequent, or the demographics in your own zip code or town.
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