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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/03/12 08:52 PM
09/03/12 08:52 PM
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so a country singer runs his mouth and it's "reactionary" but many in other genres support Mumia and well that's awesome. Mumia? Who is that?
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: SC]
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09/03/12 09:06 PM
09/03/12 09:06 PM
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so a country singer runs his mouth and it's "reactionary" but many in other genres support Mumia and well that's awesome. Mumia? Who is that? He's C's cousin.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/03/12 09:06 PM
09/03/12 09:06 PM
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@ so a country singer runs his mouth and it's "reactionary" but many in other genres support Mumia and well that's awesome. Deflection rears its ugly head. I don't believe I wrote a mumbling word about Mumia. You have zero idea what I think about Mumia nor is that case relevant in any way to the matter at hand. What I did write about was wondering why an ignorant and evidently malicious man like Hank Williams Jr. finds it necessary to lie and claim that the President is a Muslim. Why does Hank Williams Jr. think that the President hates farmers or fishing? Why does he think that the President hates cowboys? Does he have any evidence to support that claim? Or is he just excreting ignorance through his piehole? Also is there something wrong with Muslim politicians? Should there be religious tests for office? Williams' comments seems to imply that there is something wrong with a Muslim politician and we should have such tests. But I'm also confused because people were blasting the President for attending Wright's church. Now some people are saying he's a Muslim. Well which is it? And why did he compare the President to Hitler? And yes Williams' music and views are indeed reactionary. I'm glad the South lost the Civil War. Williams...not so much.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungleāas old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/03/12 09:37 PM
09/03/12 09:37 PM
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Posts: 4,089 Brooklyn, New York
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so Country music can't talk about Obama or politics but when Bush was President, it was just fine? how about some consistency!!! Anybody can talk about the President or Politics BUT the way they are doing it (e.g. the example cited above) is blatantly false, racist, disrespectful, and just plain ignorant. When Kanye West called President Bush racist because of the lack of a federal response to Hurricane Katrina, everybody jumped on him and demanded he apologize (which he did). In this case nobody is calling for this country singer to apologize or anything. That is a lack of consistency.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Lilo]
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09/03/12 10:34 PM
09/03/12 10:34 PM
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Or is he just excreting ignorance through his piehole? This. What makes me sick are those who feel compelled to make up lies. If you disagree with the man's policies, then come up with an intelligent, well thought-out argument. However, spouting lies and hate-mongering makes me want to puke.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: NickyScarfo]
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09/04/12 02:19 AM
09/04/12 02:19 AM
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I don't get why in America it's such a big deal about the religion of Candidates etc?? Who cares if their a Muslim, Christian or Aetheist etc, if they are a good president that's all that should matter. Because America never had a President with anything but a Christian background before. With Obama, we have a President with a Muslim background in Indonesia who converted to Christianity. Even JFK had problems being a Catholic. Religion has always been an issue. Why do you think Obama suddenly started going to church four weeks ago?
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: NickyScarfo]
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09/04/12 10:44 AM
09/04/12 10:44 AM
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I don't get why in America it's such a big deal about the religion of Candidates etc?? Who cares if their a Muslim, Christian or Aetheist etc, if they are a good president that's all that should matter. I agree, and think most others do too. There is a very vocal, self-righteous segment of the population, however, that seeks to exploit fears and prejudices of others by demonizing Muslim Americans, atheists, etc.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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09/04/12 11:16 AM
09/04/12 11:16 AM
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The Italian Stallionette
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These rumors are ridiculous, but they persist because ignorance spreads like wildfire. IMHO Ignorance & in many cases obstinance. I think many know they are spreading lies and simply don't care. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Just Lou]
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09/04/12 11:47 AM
09/04/12 11:47 AM
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If Rush or any of the talking heads on Fox News said Obama worshipped Satan, more than half their audience would believe it. JL (How are you btw?) If I'm not mistaken, when Obama was running in 08 some on the right did think he WAS the anti-Christ no?  I'm sure some still want to believe it. Ridiculous! Everyone knows the anti-Christ was W. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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09/04/12 11:51 AM
09/04/12 11:51 AM
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JL (How are you btw?) If I'm not mistaken, when Obama was running in 08 some on the right did think he WAS the anti-Christ no?  I'm sure some still want to believe it. Ridiculous! Everyone knows the anti-Christ was W. I'm good and still here. How are you? The far right made so many outrageous claims in 08, it wouldn't surprise me. Hell, the birthers are still trying to say he wasn't born in Hawaii. 
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Don Marco]
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09/04/12 11:52 AM
09/04/12 11:52 AM
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Skinny_Vinny
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If Obama just started going to church 4 weeks ago, why did the Fox News crowd raise such a stink about Reverend Wright? You really need to do a little research and not believe what Rush Limbaugh tells you. He started going again after a long leave of absence. The AP and NY Times did the stories on Obama going back to church.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/04/12 11:58 AM
09/04/12 11:58 AM
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If Obama just started going to church 4 weeks ago, why did the Fox News crowd raise such a stink about Reverend Wright? You really need to do a little research and not believe what Rush Limbaugh tells you. He started going again after a long leave of absence. The AP and NY Times did the stories on Obama going back to church. "Going back" and "Just started" are not the same thing.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Just Lou]
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09/04/12 12:07 PM
09/04/12 12:07 PM
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If Obama just started going to church 4 weeks ago, why did the Fox News crowd raise such a stink about Reverend Wright? You really need to do a little research and not believe what Rush Limbaugh tells you. He started going again after a long leave of absence. The AP and NY Times did the stories on Obama going back to church. "Going back" and "Just started" are not the same thing. Either way, he took a long time off, and the mainstream media felt the need to do stories about Obama going to church again.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: dontomasso]
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09/04/12 12:12 PM
09/04/12 12:12 PM
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pizzaboy
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I seem to remember something in the constitution about there being no religious tests to allow people to hold office. Where are the "original intent" people when we need tham? Don't kid yourself, DT. There are still too many who feel that America is a Judeo-Christian nation. If there weren't, Obama wouldn't be forced into photo-ops at Church. He could just tell everyone it's no one's business what religion he practices (if any). And I say this as a Democrat who is also a practicing Catholic. Speaking of which: @ Skinny_Vinny. What difference does it make if Obama studied Islam in school? I mean, I went to Catholic school for 17 years (I'm including college at Fordham University, a Jesuit school), and we studied other religions extensively. And my schooling ended over thirty years ago, before it was considered politically correct to do so.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/04/12 12:26 PM
09/04/12 12:26 PM
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Either way, he took a long time off, and the mainstream media felt the need to do stories about Obama going to church again. Why did you feel the need to change the facts in your argument?
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: SC]
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09/04/12 12:30 PM
09/04/12 12:30 PM
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Either way, he took a long time off, and the mainstream media felt the need to do stories about Obama going to church again. Why did you feel the need to change the facts in your argument? I didn't. I said "started going" and should have said "started going again". Hardly a major mistake. I'm well aware of Obama's Christian background and know he went to church in Chicago.
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