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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/04/12 12:31 PM
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@ Pizzaboy.
he didn't "Study" Islam. He attended Koran classes because it was his religion. The Christian students took Bible classes. That's the law in Indonesia. Totally different than studying other religions in high school or university level. Fair enough.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/04/12 12:47 PM
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Why did you feel the need to change the facts in your argument? I didn't. I said "started going" and should have said "started going again". Hardly a major mistake. I disagree (assuming it was a "mistake"). There's a BIG difference between the two.
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Re: Election 2012
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09/04/12 01:07 PM
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The only president who went to church regularly was Carter. And if Carter is the litmus test, we might be better off with an Agnostic in the White House  .
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: dontomasso]
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09/04/12 01:09 PM
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This is news?
The only president who went to church regularly was Carter. Reagan rarely went, but claimed to have someone come to the White House to conduct some kind of worshi service. Hi excuse for not going to church was that it would be too disruptive to the other worshippers. But the AP and other mainstream media are making it news now. It has become an issue. I would not know about it if it wasn't a story.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/04/12 02:00 PM
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This is news?
The only president who went to church regularly was Carter. Reagan rarely went, but claimed to have someone come to the White House to conduct some kind of worshi service. Hi excuse for not going to church was that it would be too disruptive to the other worshippers. But the AP and other mainstream media are making it news now. It has become an issue. I would not know about it if it wasn't a story. I see nothing on the NY TImes about this at all. I did see an article that said that Obama has chosen the same method as GW Bush when it comes to worship - the chapel at Camp David. No president since Carter has regularly attended a church in Washington - the Secret Service protection rules make it a huge undertaking. I just see nothing in the mainstream media that is even mentioning this. Making things up is kind of like saying you ran a sub 3 hour marathon when you actually ran it is 4 hours. No marathon runner that has only completed one race would ever forget his time. This was no "it happened 20 years ago" mistake. For some reason, Ryan thought it was better to portray himself as an ex-marathoner whose best time was better than 3 hours. Sad, really.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Just Lou]
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09/04/12 02:35 PM
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I'll be 53 years old next month and Carter was the worst President of my lifetime, and probably the worst since prior to World War II. I doubt there are many people that don't believe Carter was one of the worst of all time. Yeah, but he had the best presidential brother.
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Re: Election 2012
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09/04/12 02:39 PM
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I'll be 53 years old next month and Carter was the worst President of my lifetime, and probably the worst since prior to World War II. I doubt there are many people that don't believe Carter was one of the worst of all time. Yeah, but he had the best presidential brother. Roger Clinton vs. Billy Carter in a cage match.
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Re: Election 2012
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09/04/12 02:40 PM
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Roger Clinton vs. Billy Carter in a cage match. I'd pay to see that.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Don Marco]
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09/04/12 02:43 PM
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He was the only president whose brother had his own brand of beer. That's why he was always peeing on trees.... too much Billy Beer.
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Re: Election 2012
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09/05/12 02:19 AM
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You all know that I did not vote for Obama and will not in November. I even think this church issue shouldn't be a issue. What should be important is unemployment, the deficit, taxes. I agree. But in the case of Obama, he attended a Church that spoke at length about US foreign policy and in a very negative tone. Obama penned a book named after a sermon "The Audacity Of Hope". When you go so far as to title an autobiography based on your pastors sermon, you're going to draw attention to the church issue.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/05/12 08:50 AM
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You all know that I did not vote for Obama and will not in November. I even think this church issue shouldn't be a issue. What should be important is unemployment, the deficit, taxes. I agree. But in the case of Obama, he attended a Church that spoke at length about US foreign policy and in a very negative tone. Obama penned a book named after a sermon "The Audacity Of Hope". When you go so far as to title an autobiography based on your pastors sermon, you're going to draw attention to the church issue. Did we somehow get time warped back to 2008 and the same tired, old issues that were irrelevant then? First, there is nothing to your claim that there are articles about this, and secondly - Obama attends church in the same exact location that Bush did before him - Camp David's chapel. No president since Carter regularly attended church in Washington and Obama's pattern is no different.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Don Marco]
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09/05/12 09:47 AM
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I saw that Mutt Romney fella on the news singing his own praises the other night and he was saying that he will create 12 million jobs for the US??? How is he going to do that? You can't just pull 12 million new jobs out of nowhere can you?? Do you think he may have blowing his own trumpet 
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Re: Election 2012
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09/05/12 10:37 AM
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I saw that Mutt Romney fella on the news singing his own praises the other night and he was saying that he will create 12 million jobs for the US??? How is he going to do that? You can't just pull 12 million new jobs out of nowhere can you?? Do you think he may have blowing his own trumpet Yes, and it's not realistic. But it's no different than the unrealistic promises Obama made 4 years ago.
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Re: Election 2012
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09/05/12 11:17 AM
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I saw that Mutt Romney fella on the news singing his own praises the other night and he was saying that he will create 12 million jobs for the US??? How is he going to do that? You can't just pull 12 million new jobs out of nowhere can you?? Do you think he may have blowing his own trumpet Maybe McDonald's is planning an expansion. I tell you, someone better do something about the shrinking middle class in this country before it's too late. If things keep up like this it's going to be the rich and the poor and zero middle class. Lose the middle class and thats when the real troubles will happen. More people on food stamps now then ever before. Those are people who used to be considered middle class slowly sinking into the lower poorer class. Obama is in trouble, he should of dumped Biden months ago and begged Hillary to be his VP. This election is going to be razor close, could go either way.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Just Lou]
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09/05/12 04:40 PM
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I agree. But in the case of Obama, he attended a Church that spoke at length about US foreign policy and in a very negative tone.
Obama penned a book named after a sermon "The Audacity Of Hope". When you go so far as to title an autobiography based on your pastors sermon, you're going to draw attention to the church issue.
The only person that seems to think he has a a "church issue" is you When you go to a "church" that preaches "God Damn America" from the pulpit, there's a potential problem.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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09/05/12 08:37 PM
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When you go to a "church" that preaches "God Damn America" from the pulpit, there's a potential problem. I agree with that.
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Re: Election 2012
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09/05/12 10:55 PM
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When you go to a "church" that preaches "God Damn America" from the pulpit, there's a potential problem.
Unless you are also willing to question Romney about his faith and some of its problematic past views, I think both candidates should be judged on their actions, not their professed creed or statements by other people. You're judged by the company you keep. Obama has said many times that Reverend Wright, who preaches hatred against America, is one of the biggest influences in his life.
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