Most of this is obviously taken out of context it's still funny though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5VMX2JahrU&feature=player_embedded

You and fact check made the same mistake that most calculators make: the budget that a new President implements is prepared by his predecessor. Thus, the FY 2009 budget was prepared by President Bush.

The only reliable source of debt figures is the US Treasury's Reports. As they illustrate, the national debt increased by $6.1 trillion from 10/02 through 9/09; it has increased $4.1 trillion from 10/09 through present.

Another common mistake is to forget (or not know) that the federal fiscal year differs from the calendar year and that it is only the US Congress that can pass laws and make appropriations. Thus, the accrual of national debt to Presidents is misleading, at best.

So let me get this straight. Mitt Romney's money offends everyone, but John Kerry's doesn't?

According to Celebrity Net Worth, Romney is worth $200 million and Kerry is worth $194 million. Not much of a difference. But all of a sudden Kerry is an "everyman," worthy of Secretary of State?

He's the same mope without a personality that got bested by Bush eight years ago.

IMHO I think it's attitude NOT money. Kennedys (and others) are rich too but many still fight for the poor and "regular" people causes.

Kerry was so unfairly trashed on his war record (swift boated) when he was running. The guy fought in a war in which btw my ex-husband also was in (Viet Nam) to come back to basically no kind of recognition...as tho it wasn't a "real" war which HE along with many many others protested. And then...

This is the God's truth, during this swiftboating time, it was either CNN or MSNBC that actually had two talking heads/pundits trying to minimize Kerry's wounds (for which he got medals). One guy saying, "I don't think he bled that much," as if to dismiss it. WTF?? It's come to that? That's inexcusable. I was so pissed off.

Kudos to Kerry because I'm guessing that outburst has been raging inside of him for a while. He deserved to get it off his chest. I wish he would have had that "spunk" back then.

Mitt Romney is on an entirely different level of "awareness" for lack of a better word.


TIS

I couldn't agree more on the drug-addled hippies who refused to recognize the American heroes who risked their lives in Vietnam.

Anyone who spit on a Veteran getting off one of those airplanes should have been tried and executed for treason. It's okay to hate the war, but to not support the soldiers is unconscionable.

Exactly PB! (except I don't remember the drug addled hippies NOT recognizing the heroes) Having lived thru the era, and knowing people who were in the war, not to mention the deaths, makes it a little more personal for someone from that era, especially a former soldier.

My ex told me a few stories from his time in Viet Nam. It's a whole different world there. Hard to comprehend.

TIS

I don't think it's Romney's wealth that people have a problem with. It's the Swiss and Caribbean bank accounts, low tax rate he's paying, and secret tax returns.

FWIW, I was a life long registered Republican until the 90's. Since then, the party has swung way too far to the "Right" for me. When I moved to NY and registered to vote, I elected not to enroll in either party.

I don't resent Romney's wealth any more than I resented any others' wealth (most Presidential candidates are wealthy anyway). And, if he took advantage of legal tax breaks to lower his bill, he didn't do anything that I wouldn't have done if I were as smart as he. But he has to realize that, in a Presidential election, his wealth and his tax returns are fair game. And, how he responds to challenges to both is a measure of character and potential effectiveness in office. Romney hasn't done a good job in responding.

One of the reasons I didn't vote for John Corzine when I lived in NJ was that, in his run for Senate, he refused to divulge his assets, claiming that he made a pledge to Goldman Sachs, where he had been CEO. My response was that if his pledge to Goldman Sachs was more important than clearing the air with voters, he should have stayed with Goldman Sachs.

Excellent point TB.

What I would like to know is why the Bain documents submitted to the SEC listed him as CEO when he wasn't CEO and di he derive any income from holding that position. Has he told us why?

Hackers Say They‘ve Stolen Romney’s Tax Returns and Are Demanding $1M — But Have They Really?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/hackers-...ve-they-really/

DD they should just release them because they will never get the money that would show a sign of weakness. Romney is too cheap. His facebook, the past holiday weekened. He has posted on his FB book that his window decals for your car were 10 % off...

BTW that's De Niro in your avatar right? What movie is that from?

Its Alphonse "Little Allie Boy" Persico.

^^^correct it is Allie Boy

Apparently they will release the tax returns on Sept 26 (or 28 dont remember) if they dont get their money by then.

Well the hackers can put their money where their mouth is. Evidently Hustler's Larry Flynt offered Million dollars for Mitten's taxes. The plot thickens. LOL


TIS


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppa...eys-tax-returns

I don't think you'd find anything interesting in those tax returns anyway. If there was anything, wouldn't IRS be on his case?

I'm not sure why people don't pay attention to what's important. There are two people with two different plans. Choose one that suits your views already, it's not like they both want to do the same plan and you look for one with less tax tricks.

^^^well their is something in those returns that will put a negative light on his campaign, hence why he refuses to release them.

Romney gave 20 years of tax returns to McCain to be vetted for VP back in 2008, McCain then chose Palin...

Did ya'll see the video of the Florida pizza shop guy giving the President a bear hug lifting him off the ground? Give it a view.

I just saw it a couple minutes ago. That guy was a quite the happy fellow wasn't he? I'm wondering if the Secret Service were at ease with it.

Anyway, I'm thinking that's a Presidential "first."


TIS

The bear-hugger is lucky to be alive. Secret Service must hate campaign appearances when candidates get in the streets and start pressing the flesh.

I read from the Daily News that he asked a Secret Service agent prior to bear hugging. The agent told him "just don't walk away with him"

McCain chose Palin to attract Hillary votes. If he was in serious business of vetting, he wouldn't have chosen Palin in the first place.

He might very well release those returns near the election to show there's nothing interesting there. I think Democrats should not make an issue of this anyway. Feels like walking into a trap of making him look good for what he has been supposed to do in the first place: paying his taxes and using every way conceivable to pay less and then releasing them to public before election.

I saw the picture yesterday, but didn't read the story. I assumed it was a staged photo op.

Speaking to the GOP, Ingraham said, "If you can't beat Barack Obama with this record, then shut down the party. Shut it down. Start new, with new people."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/10/laura-ingraham-gop-obama-shut-down-party_n_1871911.html

I've always said congress should have term limits. Amongst other things.

You are probably right, Mig, but I do have one concern. The bottom line is that a minority of leaders on both sides in the House and in the Senate actually have a clue about what is going on. In the GOP people like McCain, Lugar (formerly), and Boehner know the ropes as do people like Feinstein, Reid and Pelosi for the Dems. Many of the rest are just a bunch of pols who just want to stay in office. My concern with term limits is if the real leadership on both sids of the aisle are forced out after a certain time, there will be no one sesoned enough to stand up to the bureaucrats who NEVER leave D.C. and who could rn roughshod over the people who are supposed to be regulating them. Otherwise new faces in the House and Senate would be welcome.

I should be able to vote for whomever I want.

Yes, as long as they are a "legal" candidate.

I don't think Romney recovers from his dumb comments last night and this morning. His ship is sinking fast.

Agree 100%.

Speaking of ships: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/09/dnc-russian-ships-navy-tribute-goof.html?mid=google