Just like Strax said in the shoutbox, there is absolutely zip going on in the world of the Mafia. No busts, arrests, and the trials in Philly aren't until October. Seems to me like the Families are enjoying a small period of smooth running and stability. Overall, it's been a quiet summer in the world of LCN. A little too quiet if you ask me.

There is also the upcoming trial of Joel Cacace. I think once the feds have everybody from mob takedown day sentenced (bunch of colombos havent been yet) then they will start preparing for another bust. This is the calm before the storm...

Even Mob takedown day didn't do as much damage as it should've. They got the Colombos pretty good, a few Gambino bigwigs and top Patriarca guys, but aside from that it didn't do much.
The Gambino's have over 3/4ths of their capos on the street with over 200 guys. Genoveses are strong along with the Lucchese's, and once Vinny TV gets out he'll become boss.
I agree another bust is in the works, but the mob recovered well from takedown day. I don't see how they'll ever be stopped in NY Dap.

I think 3 of the five families have had a fairly decent period in the last year or 2. As was said bosses, no major takedowns, and some guys out of prison. We don't know but we can assume some guys will have been made in this period also.

They will never be stopped, people need their vices from somewhere (gambling, etc). The goal is to reduce their impact to the point where they dont affect a majority of New Yorker's like they did in the 80s with their construction rackets jacking up the prices of building in the city.

Besides a few guys on takedown day facing serious charges like Vernace, it was just a regular bust that involved tons of guys at once thats all. It was never going take any family out,it damaged the admin of the colombos quite a bit but there is always another old fart willing to step up.

It was more of quantity then quality.

Even now they still remain heavily involved in construction from what I hear. And I agree with Nicky, more guys have had to be made in these past two years

^^not like they used to, but yes still involved.

It takes a ton of effort to really make a dent in one of the NY families unlike the other smaller families. Look at Philly and NE, a few indictments and the feds round up the admin and a number of other guys to seriously curtail their operations.

Was the last major hit to the Luccheses was that gambling in 2007 right? long time.

Very true. Although despite being small I think Chicago holds up pretty well

"Nicholas (Nicky Skins) Stefanelli" he recorded a lot.We will see what will happen,maybe feds working on it.

Correct, things are quiet on that front.

Even Philly can recover from the hit they took last year. Patriarca is a different story, but the smaller families would do well to keep it low and take few hits. DiNunzio didn't heed to that very well

things would be much different in philly if the current guys out on the street like mazzone and merlino get picked up, at that point you really have a bare bones family out on the street

cant blame dinunzio, he got picked up by skins on tape

Very true. It'll be interesting to see if Merlino and his guys can stay on the street for more than a year or two

Don't forget they slashed the number of FBI agents working on the Five Families after Takedown Day. That probably means investigations are going to take longer. Plus with the Gambinos and Luccheses getting new bosses (and most likely, entire administrations), they probably need extra time to learn a whole new structure and set of routines.

Major busts

Luccheses - 2007
Gambinos - 2008
Colombos - every year it seems
Genoveses - 1990s?
Bonannos - 2012, though everyone got light sentences

Genovese, Gambino, and Lucchese have been running smoothly for awhile now. The Bonanno's will get everyone out in two years. The Colombo's are down but theyre hanging around. Like dap said its hard to get one of the five families. And with Crea as the new boss, he's probably selected a new inner circle and made new guys. FBI will be watching no doubt

From your earlier post about FBI agents, with a huge reduction of agents on organized crime, it would slower the paste down but also they don't need that manpower simply because they know how to investigate them but even still, 450 agents down to 50 is a huge reduction, probably to big.
The Genovese did have a bust this year with like 2 capos and few soldiers. It as bigger then the Bonanno bust this year.

I dont know whether you can say its running smoothly. I mean you have to look at the losses in the different areas. With the queens faction of the gambinos you have the corrozos and co in jail along with most of their drug trafficking operation which is either dead or now downsized due to the fact that alot of the crew that was running it is now in jail, Alphonse Trucchio is serving ten years also the people that got taken down with him for that stripper scheme. Daniel Marino and a lot of his people got are doing time and they were doing a whole bunch of stuff from the usual gambling, loan sharking and extortion to drug dealing and sex trafficking, so thats more money thats not coming in.Operation old bridge probably put a hinderance or stop to their activities with the sicilians. Also the fact that a lot of these indictments and arrests have taken place every two years or so between 2005-2011 doesnt help. So thats alot of manpower, money and leadership of different factions and crews taken off the street.

NIce point Scorsese..I'd like to know how the arrests of individuals impact their respective organizations. I think that is a key step to identifying the impact of the law enforcements' efforts...

You talking about the Conrad Ianniello case? That's still ongoing, so it's wait and see. These guys could plead out and get light sentences just like the Bonannos did.

One of the points that people bring up when the subject of their decline is brought up is that they are adaptable and that they keep a low profile. But i doubt they adapt over night or weeks after. If you look at the big bust and the following arrests of genovese family members where you had union officials and presidents getting arrested thats gotta cost them money and also the resource of having people in those positions being taken away, its not going to be easy to find replacements straight away for those people.Everything costs time , money and manpower.

Look to Montreal for the action. With Vito getting out soon, and no Ricoh statutes, it seems like they can still operate up there like it's the Wild West. It's been a crazy couple of years up there. That is what the next movie should be based on.

i don't know like in the states the law works
but in italy getting 10 years it means you are out after 5 at most

Federal time in the States means you do almost 90 percent of the time. There's no way around it. State time is more like 2/3rds.

The rizuttos are a good example of what i was saying. They got busted first vito then his dad along with a lot of man power and then a they start getting knocked off one by one a few years later. What it came down to was that no one could really replace vito or what the organisation was before the arrests and police operations.

guys will get caught up in football gambling and shaking down bookies all over the northeast that will never stop. i read a couple weeks ago i think it was a bunch of oldtimers in the bronx and a fireman connected to the genovese on a million dollar ring got fines and probation. they had that lawyer dont worry murray, guys good. it was a state case.

85% federal. State crimes depend on which state and what crime. I've heard people serving two years on a 10 year sentence for state crimes.