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Artie......what luck?
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I've been rewatching The Sopranos over the last couple of weeks, and there is something that caught my eye. I've done a search here to see if it's been discussed before, but didn't find anything. I'm refering to the scene in the final episode of season one where Artie confronts Tony with a rifle. I get that they are friends, but i find it hard to believe that The Boss of a crime famliy would just ignore/forgive/forget having a gun pulled on him in a strip club's parking lot. In addition, what would stop Tony from thinking Artie was gonna rat him out to the FEDS? In that scene there is enough cause/reason for Artie to be sleeping with the fishes. So why isn't he?
"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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Tony let Artie get away with a lot of stuff even more than Chris got away with. How So?...You can't be serious? Nah...you can't compare Artie to Chris cause Chris is a drug addict, he almost about to rat out on Tony, He almost about to kill Tony cause he was thinking Tony had an affair with his fiance, Chris was the one had ball to question about his leadership, many more, etc. Tony Let Christ get away with alot of stuff....and don't know why you would say about Artire. I understand Artie and he just being just used/pawn and he's not even part of the Mafia. That's a totally different between Chris and Artie situation.
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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Tony let Artie get away with a lot of stuff even more than Chris got away with. How So?...You can't be serious? Nah...you can't compare Artie to Chris cause Chris is a drug addict, he almost about to rat out on Tony, He almost about to kill Tony cause he was thinking Tony had an affair with his fiance, Chris was the one had ball to question about his leadership, many more, etc. Tony Let Christ get away with alot of stuff....and don't know why you would say about Artire. I understand Artie and he just being just used/pawn and he's not even part of the Mafia. That's a totally different between Chris and Artie situation. I agree that Chris done more but Artie was about to kill Tony too he lost 50 k ( i think not seen Sopranos in a while ) of Tonys money and the fact he wasn't in the mafia stopped there being a chance of him ratting .
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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Tony let Artie get away with a lot of stuff even more than Chris got away with. How So?...You can't be serious? Nah...you can't compare Artie to Chris cause Chris is a drug addict, he almost about to rat out on Tony, He almost about to kill Tony cause he was thinking Tony had an affair with his fiance, Chris was the one had ball to question about his leadership, many more, etc. Tony Let Christ get away with alot of stuff....and don't know why you would say about Artire. I understand Artie and he just being just used/pawn and he's not even part of the Mafia. That's a totally different between Chris and Artie situation. I agree that Chris done more but Artie was about to kill Tony too he lost 50 k ( i think not seen Sopranos in a while ) of Tonys money and the fact he wasn't in the mafia stopped there being a chance of him ratting . Whoa...wait a min...Tony know Artie just got robbed and Artie doesn't know better and he thoughts he gonna lose his life because of Tony and Tony knows Artie fear him that's why Artie couldn't kill him and don't have a ball to do it unlike Chris. Chris actually shoot his gun at Tony's trunk and he was about to shoot up at Silvo's club too where was Tony at but lucky the guys stopped Chris.. at the same time Chris was drunk after he went to rehab. Why do you think Artie was about to kill himself? Believe me, Tony would feel so bad if he killed Artie for nothing but he would have a good reason to kill Chris....See different? Artie just being used that's all.
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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Tony let Artie get away with a lot of stuff even more than Chris got away with. How So?...You can't be serious? Nah...you can't compare Artie to Chris cause Chris is a drug addict, he almost about to rat out on Tony, He almost about to kill Tony cause he was thinking Tony had an affair with his fiance, Chris was the one had ball to question about his leadership, many more, etc. Tony Let Christ get away with alot of stuff....and don't know why you would say about Artire. I understand Artie and he just being just used/pawn and he's not even part of the Mafia. That's a totally different between Chris and Artie situation. I agree that Chris done more but Artie was about to kill Tony too he lost 50 k ( i think not seen Sopranos in a while ) of Tonys money and the fact he wasn't in the mafia stopped there being a chance of him ratting . Whoa...wait a min...Tony know Artie just got robbed and Artie doesn't know better and he thoughts he gonna lose his life because of Tony and Tony knows Artie fear him that's why Artie couldn't kill him and don't have a ball to do it unlike Chris. Chris actually shoot his gun at Tony's trunk and he was about to shoot up at Silvo's club too where was Tony at but lucky the guys stopped Chris.. at the same time Chris was drunk after he went to rehab. Why do you think Artie was about to kill himself? Believe me, Tony would feel so bad if he killed Artie for nothing but he would have a good reason to kill Chris....See different? Artie just being used that's all. I'm not talking about the time the French guy robbed him i was meaning in season 1 when Artie points a rifle at Tony for blowing up his restaurant .
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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I'm not talking about the time the French guy robbed him i was meaning in season 1 when Artie points a rifle at Tony for blowing up his restaurant Exactly what I was saying...Tony knew Artie won't shoot at him but Chris would while he's on the drug, etc...Tony actually feel bad for Artie cause Artie was an innocent...what Tony did to Artie was wrong and he knew it..but with Chris..he's just cause too much problem...there is no brain the real mafia would kill Chris right quick.
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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I'm not talking about the time the French guy robbed him i was meaning in season 1 when Artie points a rifle at Tony for blowing up his restaurant Exactly what I was saying...Tony knew Artie won't shoot at him but Chris would while he's on the drug, etc...Tony actually feel bad for Artie cause Artie was an innocent...what Tony did to Artie was wrong and he knew it..but with Chris..he's just cause too much problem...there is no brain the real mafia would kill Chris right quick. Why did you say this then - Tony know Artie just got robbed? It sounds like you were talking about when the French guy robbed him and btw i agree with you about Chris . Sorry, I misunderstood you cause I'm drunk little bit...but my point is you can't compare Artie to Chris...I mean...GET REAL......Name me how many Tony let Artie get awway so much?.... @ JChrusher, not you. By the way, Why Tony always said he's my nephew when he's not related by blood?
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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I'm not talking about the time the French guy robbed him i was meaning in season 1 when Artie points a rifle at Tony for blowing up his restaurant Exactly what I was saying...Tony knew Artie won't shoot at him but Chris would while he's on the drug, etc...Tony actually feel bad for Artie cause Artie was an innocent...what Tony did to Artie was wrong and he knew it..but with Chris..he's just cause too much problem...there is no brain the real mafia would kill Chris right quick. Why did you say this then - Tony know Artie just got robbed? It sounds like you were talking about when the French guy robbed him and btw i agree with you about Chris . Sorry, I misunderstood you cause I'm drunk little bit...but my point is you can't compare Artie to Chris...I mean...GET REAL......Name me how many Tony let Artie get awway so much?.... @ JChrusher, not you. By the way, Why Tony always said he's my nephew when he's not related by blood? Read my comments again i said twice i agree with you about Chris . All i was saying was for someone who wasn't in the mafia he got away with alot in addition to the 2 things i've already mentioned he also hit Benny i've not seen the show in awhile so i can't remember if he was made or not but still .
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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Read my comments again i said twice i agree with you about Chris . All i was saying was for someone who wasn't in the mafia he got away with alot in addition to the 2 things i've already mentioned he also hit Benny i've not seen the show in awhile so i can't remember if he was made or not but still Oh okay, my bad.....That's one he was lucky to get away when he beats the sh!t out of Benny in front of his home, his wife, his baby...because he was jealousof that girl and Benny releationship... and you're right.....that's because he's a Tony's only true friend.
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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Tony let Artie get away with a lot of stuff even more than Chris got away with. How So?...You can't be serious? Nah...you can't compare Artie to Chris cause Chris is a drug addict, he almost about to rat out on Tony, He almost about to kill Tony cause he was thinking Tony had an affair with his fiance, Chris was the one had ball to question about his leadership, many more, etc. Tony Let Christ get away with alot of stuff....and don't know why you would say about Artire. I understand Artie and he just being just used/pawn and he's not even part of the Mafia. That's a totally different between Chris and Artie situation. Calm down man you are getting too emotional lol. Both Artie and Chris got away with a ton of shit because of their closeness to Tony. remember its only a show
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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09/18/12 05:54 PM
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I appriciate what everyone here has said, but it still seems like a bit like a dropped ball. A minor one, though. All the forgiveness in the world, but there was none for David Scatino in season two. And when he helps Artie in season four with the french guy, there are overtones that suggest he did this for selfish reasons.
At the end of the day i suppose i'm saying, friend or no friend, if you aim a gun at the Don of a crime family....you're time on earth is coming to an end.
"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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I've been rewatching The Sopranos over the last couple of weeks, and there is something that caught my eye. I've done a search here to see if it's been discussed before, but didn't find anything. I'm refering to the scene in the final episode of season one where Artie confronts Tony with a rifle. I get that they are friends, but i find it hard to believe that The Boss of a crime famliy would just ignore/forgive/forget having a gun pulled on him in a strip club's parking lot. In addition, what would stop Tony from thinking Artie was gonna rat him out to the FEDS? In that scene there is enough cause/reason for Artie to be sleeping with the fishes. So why isn't he? Its a tv show.
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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I've been rewatching The Sopranos over the last couple of weeks, and there is something that caught my eye. I've done a search here to see if it's been discussed before, but didn't find anything. I'm refering to the scene in the final episode of season one where Artie confronts Tony with a rifle. I get that they are friends, but i find it hard to believe that The Boss of a crime famliy would just ignore/forgive/forget having a gun pulled on him in a strip club's parking lot. In addition, what would stop Tony from thinking Artie was gonna rat him out to the FEDS? In that scene there is enough cause/reason for Artie to be sleeping with the fishes. So why isn't he? Its a tv show. Obviously he's aware of that as he said he's been watching the show and had some questions thus why he is asking those questions on a forum about the sopranos it's called discussion . lol I know. Sorry for being a smart ass. First of all to answer his question it must have came down to the fact that Tony felt he had to not do anything cause he had a big heart for one person in his life, which would have been Artie. I mean look at how Tony never even really tried to get Artie involved in the MOB life. HE always respected the fact that Artie wanted to be an owner of a restaurant and a cook. Tony easily could have thrown temptation in Arties face big time, but he never did that. Now in real life he would have been murderered but this is the Sopranos we are talking about.
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Re: Artie......what luck?
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Here's another interesting hypothetical question....if Tony had gone into business with Artie (as he tries on many an occasion) do you think he would have busted out the joint? I'm reminded of Goodfellas when Paulie goes into the restaurant business and busts out the owner.
"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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