did she complain about amanda bynes not going to jail yesterday? anyways though i kind of feel sorry for lindsay because most of her problems stem from her parents. and, while we are at it i feel really bad for bynes who i grown up watching and idk what exactly happened to her since everything came out of the blue this year.

DNA on gun that killed Trayvon Martin belonged to Zimmerman only

Forensic tests made public Wednesday show that George Zimmerman’s was the only DNA that could be identified on the grip of the gun used to fatally shoot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The results rule out Martin’s DNA from being on the gun’s grip. Zimmerman’s DNA also was identified on the gun’s holster, but no determination could be made as to whether Martin’s DNA was on the gun’s holster, according to the report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder for fatally shooting Martin during a confrontation in a gated community in Sanford in February. Zimmerman is pleading not guilty, claiming self-defense.

A delay in Zimmerman’s arrest led to nationwide protests.

The question of whose DNA is on the gun and holster could play a role in Zimmerman’s defense.

Zimmerman says Martin had been on top of him, slamming his head against the ground and smothering his mouth and nose with his hand and arm when he grabbed his gun from a holster on his waist before Martin could get it. He shot the teenager once in the chest.

Other documents released by prosecutors Wednesday include an interview with the clerk of a convenience store where Martin purchased Skittles and a can of iced tea moments before his confrontation with Zimmerman. The clerk said in the interview, more than a month after Martin was shot, that he didn’t remember Martin.

“To be honest, I don’t even remember that day,” said the clerk, whose name was redacted from the audio interview.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...4#ixzz26yBcYk5s

What's with the rich who can't pay their taxes?

Prince Fails to Comply With French Tax Summons

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2012/09/19/prince-fails-to-comply-with-tax-summons/

A guy here is being held for trial on Murder One--killed two people and burned down their home to try to cover it up. He claimed he was "indigent" at his arraignment, so the judge assigned him a public defender. Now the judge found out that after the arraignment, the perp's father died, leaving him $400k. So, the judge ordered him to hire his own lawyers and dunned him $27k for the public defender's services to date. To add insult to injury: since it's a capital punishment case, he has to pay for two lawyers. I don't think 20 lawyers would get him off.

Kly, does a capias always have to be issued if even after the fact such as following an arrest for DWI?

^^^oli, you want to share something with the board? lol

Is it possible they might have found Jimmy Hoffa? Apparently they are digging up a driveway in Detroit to find out.

Lilo, is the Detroit PD that backlogged that they are just getting around to this?

Seriously, how interesting IF mystery was solved.



There’s no shortage of guesses — or guessers — when it comes to the mystery of Jimmy Hoffa’s final resting place. Fabled hypotheses say the former Teamsters boss is buried underneath the end zone at the former Giants Stadium in New Jersey, or perhaps his body was even fed to alligators in the Everglades. Few tangible details have emerged in the nearly 40 years that have passed since Hoffa vanished from a restaurant parking lot in Oakland County, Michigan. But now, police are back on the hunt for his remains, acting on new information from a tipster who claims Hoffa is buried underneath the driveway of a house in the suburb of Roseville.


http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/09/27/is-jimmy-hoffa-buried-under-a-driveway-in-michigan/

TIS

I think Geraldo was the source.

so they will what was in capone's vault in the same grave with hoffa. makes sense.

No. A simple summons will usually be sufficient. A capias may issue from the bench when a defendant fails to appear, but it's almost always lifted if the defendant voluntarily presents himself to the DA's office to get a new court date.

Another question Kly. Doesn't even a traffic citation constitute an arrest?

Well, yes the Detroit police are that backed up. But this case is in Roseville. Different jurisdiction...

Murder of family

Oops! When I heard it on the radio this morning they said Detroit area, and I assumed it was a suburb of Detroit.


TIS

No, you are correct TIS, it is a suburb of Detroit but the Detroit police have no control there.

People around here are quite particular about the differences between all the various cities, townships and towns. Roseville is a little further from Detroit than say Torrance is from Long Beach.

California and gay cures:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/...r-children?lite

Yes indeed.

Regarding this: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/03/us-court-orders-iran-to-pay-6-billion-for-911-attacks/

Anybody followed that? How could Iran be accountable if some who later carried out 9/11 attacks passed through Iran? So weren't they in the US when they did what they did? Would these families sue the US government for letting them in as well? Would this ruling hold up? Could any court in the US make a foreign country pay damages to the US? Who defended Iran in this court?

apparently this might have been a case of friendly fire according to the fbi



in this case the court can confiscate the money from iranian funds that are frozen in the states

This doesn't answer any of my questions. It's more like okay, there's some frozen Iranian assets, so we pay this to 9/11 families who sued Iran. I asked how is that Iran is accountable for something that happened under US's watch, done by Saudi citizens, who were funded by Taliban, all of which were enemies of Iran, Iran being Shiite, and all those are Sunni Muslims.

You are absolutely right, it makes no sense. There are always a few people out there looking for a payday. Iran is an easy target because they really cant defend themselves in court.

You might want to start by examining US Code. As Kly or DT would advise, federal and state law creates a predicate for accessories before and after the fact.

Anyone can sue anyone or any entity for anything in America. When I took my CCW (Carry Concealed Weapon) course, the instructor reminded us that, even if you shoot a burglar in the act, he can sue you for damages to his health if he survives, or his survivors can find some way to sue you. Courts may not find you guilty, but it'll cost you a fortune in legal fees.

This year's AZ ballot carries a proposition eliminating perps' right to sue their victims for damages.

Quite right TB. That's why we have lawyers. They know what statutes state, the common law, and precedents.

Unfortunately your honor the burglar can't be here to give his side of the story as I had to shoot him 30 times as he unlawfully threatened me on my property. And wouldn't you know immediately afterwards his survivors did the same thing and they hadda go too. So let me speak without fear of contradiction and tell you what happened that night..

As I repeatedly tell my students, there's what the law says and then there's what you think it says. Most of the time our knowledge of the law is anecdotal being based on hallway conversations, what we've heard or briefly read, and suppositions we make. Just ask Bernie Goetz.

Olivant, your comments are irrelevant to my questions. I'm not interested in law or what the code is. It is what it is. I'm asking if ruling of a local court has the power to make another sovereign nation pay damages. Shouldn't that be power of an international court? If some assets are frozen, shouldn't that be a whole other case to see who gets that? If any court can have other nations pay any sort of damages, Iran can have couple of local cases in Iranian courts, with Iranian juries who are obviously biased and sue the US for giving aid to Saddam during 8 year war between Iraq and Iran, shooting down an Iranian passenger airplane killing everyone aboard, and so on and so forth.

Afsaneh:
The initial argument was made by someone who likely doesn't know MEK from Jundallah, Sunni from Shiite and probably didn't care. I am sure they just wanted justice for their loved ones.

To piggyback on what was said above, anyone can sue for anything. Much of the final planning for 911 took place in Hamburg. Suing Germany for 911 makes about as much sense as suing Iran.

That said because Iran did not appear to contest the claims, the judge ruled that the other side won by default.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/10/04/50979.htm

You will notice that the Patrick Clawson who submitted testimony in this case is the same person who was recently musing on possible ways the US might be pushed into war with Iran.
http://jonathanturley.org/2012/09/27/fal...-war-with-iran/

Lilo, thanks for the information. Keeps getting better and better.

I remember some Israelis once sued Iran over Palestinian suicide bombings, wanting to seize some Persian historical tablets that at the time were in the US for historical studies. The judge ruled against it. So what I really like to know, is that why they didn't go for those frozen assets then. And how far the power of a local court goes to make another country pay damages. So if anyone knows a precedent to such cases, I'd appreciate if they could shed some light on the aftermath of those rulings and the actual reach of them.