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Re: Election 2012
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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10/06/12 10:52 PM
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This may have some impact on the election:
"Arkansas State Rep. Jon Hubbard goes and writes a book. It’s called, "Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative," and inside it he espouses a unique view of African-American history, asserting that slavery — and we quote here — "may actually have been a blessing in disguise." Sure, there was all that lynching, beating, raping, shackling, etc. — that part obviously sucked. But once that was over, black people were — and again we quote — "rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth." Yeah … we’re sure that made it all worth it, Jon."
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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10/06/12 11:15 PM
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This may have some impact on the election:
"Arkansas State Rep. Jon Hubbard goes and writes a book. It’s called, "Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative," and inside it he espouses a unique view of African-American history, asserting that slavery — and we quote here — "may actually have been a blessing in disguise." Sure, there was all that lynching, beating, raping, shackling, etc. — that part obviously sucked. But once that was over, black people were — and again we quote — "rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth." Yeah … we’re sure that made it all worth it, Jon." Why would this have an impact on the election? It's not as if Romneys going to agree with it regardless of what he thinks.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: afsaneh77]
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10/07/12 08:50 AM
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Why would this have an impact on the election? It's not as if Romneys going to agree with it regardless of what he thinks.
It's not like Romney had African American vote to begin with. Who knows how things will turn out? I don't. But sometimes little things like that can turn an election because they can cause one side to have to play defense instead of going on offense. They also energize the other side. Romney is not yet doing as well among white voters as McCain did. It's not just black voters he has to worry about. There are plenty of white voters who will be turned off by such things. There are many independent or moderately conservative white voters that lean Republican or are looking for reasons to vote Republican. When party leaders continually give indications that they think the wrong side won the Civil War or rape is no big deal or anyone who is darker than Desi Arnaz ought to be stopped and asked to prove citizenship the party risks losing some of those predominantly white swing voters. Right now the election looks very close and neither side wants its nuts saying stupid things.
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Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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10/08/12 04:49 AM
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According to the Electoral Map of http://www.realclearpolitics.com which condenses the latest polls, Obama is likely to win the election. There are eight "Toss Up" states: Nevada, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Iowa, Missouri, Virginia, Colorado. If nothing changes in the other states, it would be enough if he wins Florida and loses the others. If he wins Ohio or North Carolina or Virginia, he needs just one more state. Romney, on the other hand, needs 89 more votes. That's why I believe that the only thing that can keep Obama from winning the election is a big mistake, or maybe another mad pastor.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: afsaneh77]
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10/08/12 05:46 AM
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I was following Hoffpost's electoral map and I tell ya, Obama had a better advantage before this debate.  Polls certainly have shifted toward Romney after the 1st debate. http://twitter.com/i/#!/search/realtime/%23IfObamaDontWin Better hope Obama wins. People talking about civil disobedience if Obama loses.
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Re: Election 2012
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10/08/12 05:55 PM
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The risk of national violence and civil disobedience if Obama loses is crazier than the Y2K hysteria in 1999. Not the same. Of course there will be problems in Newark, Oakland, St. Louis, CHICAGO, Atlanta and other cities. Expect a national walkout from school too.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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10/08/12 09:27 PM
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The risk of national violence and civil disobedience if Obama loses is crazier than the Y2K hysteria in 1999. Of course there will be problems in Newark, Oakland, St. Louis, CHICAGO, Atlanta and other cities. Expect a national walkout from school too. Boy, those darn black people. I don't know why we even have them.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: klydon1]
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10/09/12 01:26 AM
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The challenger to a president almost always gets a boost from the first debate. I'm hoping Obama does better in the next debates. Those pauses aren't gonna help him though, I remember Stewart saying that he feels president talks to other universes during those pauses.  And in Bill Maher's Real Time, it was mentioned that Obama probably didn't wanna come across as an angry black man.  Oh, the things you have to mind in American politics makes my head hurt.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: olivant]
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10/09/12 01:29 AM
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The risk of national violence and civil disobedience if Obama loses is crazier than the Y2K hysteria in 1999. Of course there will be problems in Newark, Oakland, St. Louis, CHICAGO, Atlanta and other cities. Expect a national walkout from school too. Boy, those darn black people. I don't know why we even have them. Not funny. As we get closer to election day, if the election looks close, you'll hear about law enforcement preparing for civil unrest. I didn't say black people. Plenty of white OWS types will probably lead the unrest. They've done it before.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: afsaneh77]
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10/09/12 01:44 AM
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The challenger to a president almost always gets a boost from the first debate. I'm hoping Obama does better in the next debates. Those pauses aren't gonna help him though, I remember Stewart saying that he feels president talks to other universes during those pauses.  And in Bill Maher's Real Time, it was mentioned that Obama probably didn't wanna come across as an angry black man.  Oh, the things you have to mind in American politics makes my head hurt. LOL @ angry black man. New Yorker magazine introduced that to the echoing chamber when Obama said, "You didn't build that". Their theory was that it wasn't what Obama said, but how he said it which made white racists wake up and protest. Well, that's NY magazine. I think Obama will do better because he has been strong on foreign policy. The main reason Obama will win is the demographics in swing states favor him. In the end, that's it.
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Re: Election 2012
[Re: Skinny_Vinny]
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10/09/12 02:01 AM
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New Yorker magazine introduced that to the echoing chamber when Obama said, "You didn't build that". Their theory was that it wasn't what Obama said, but how he said it which made white racists wake up and protest. Well, that's NY magazine.
I think Obama will do better because he has been strong on foreign policy. The main reason Obama will win is the demographics in swing states favor him. In the end, that's it. Gee, as if that comment wasn't taken out of context! The reason that was an issue, wasn't the way he said it, it was the desperation of a party that has nothing worth while to stand up for and has to make issues out of thin air and make them important too. Like taking God off the coin. As if it was Obama's plan. Well, at least when Obama wins, you don't have to worry about riots.
"Fire cannot kill a dragon." -Daenerys Targaryen, Game of Thrones
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