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Re: Vito Rizzuto seen in Montreal: sources [Re: Giordano] #674044
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"The choice of Rizzuto to go to Toronto, could be explained in a pax mafia between the two factions that vie for control of Montreal. A theory supported by the fact that its Ontario, Vaughan, at the beginning of 2011, was held a 50th wedding anniversary which had participated in leading members of the 'Ndrangheta and Cosa Nostra."


can anyone shed some light on this 50th anniversary???

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What opponents. I've heard that they've(rizzuto clan) have already took back the city. His so called opponents (Arcuris and co) are on the lam. No where to be found. And there father has just recently died. And no they didn't show up for his funeral.


Do you think that Di Maulo and co. are without any muscle?


Apparently DiMaulo's muscle was given Sunday off.....

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Link to article about this topic, along with part of the article itself, appears below:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Vito+Rizz...7698/story.html

Vito Rizzuto boards flight out of Dorval airport headed to sun vacation
Sources say reputed Mob leader was on a flight to Punta Cana in Dominican Republic

By Paul Cherry, GAZETTE CRIME REPORTER
January 16, 2013 9:12 AM

MONTREAL - Even reputed mob leaders need a vacation now and then and it appears Vito Rizzuto is doing just that as he boarded a flight at Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport early Wednesday morning and appeared destined for a sunnier climate.

Sources have told The Gazette that Rizzuto, 66, appeared to be readying to board a flight to Punta Cana, a popular tourist destination in Dominican Republic at around 5:30 a.m. as he passed through the airport in Dorval. It is believed to be Rizzuto’s first time travelling outside of Canada since he was deported last year after having served a prison term in Colorado for his role in the 1981 deaths of three Mafia captains in Brooklyn, New York.

Rizzuto was not travelling alone and appeared to have been followed by two police detectives as he walked through the airport. A police source said the detectives were merely using the opportunity to strike up a conversation with the man described as the head of the Mafia in Montreal before he was extradited to the U.S. and sentenced, in May 2007, to a 10-year prison term after pleading guilty to a racketeering charge that encompassed the three murders. He has rarely been spotted in public since his return and was notably absent from the funeral last year of Joseph Di Maulo, an influential Mafioso who was killed outside his home in Blainville in November. Di Maulo once had close ties to Rizzuto and his organization but, police believe, he was also part of a group that tried to take over leadership of the Mafia in Montreal while Rizzuto was absent.

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According to a police source, investigators who follow the Mafia closely are now “100 per cent certain” that Rizzuto chose to reside in Montreal when he was returned from the U.S. on Oct. 5. He was escorted by U.S. immigration agents on his flight back, which landed in Toronto, and he appeared to stay in that city for at least a couple of weeks before returning to Montreal, the city he lived in for decades....

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Nothing like going down there to check on ones money, lol...Count the bucks and contemplate retirement, maybe....

Or maybe he's planning to be out of town while a big hit takes place...?


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Nothing like going down there to check on ones money, lol...Count the bucks and contemplate retirement, maybe....

Or maybe he's planning to be out of town while a big hit takes place...?


Your theories are as valid as anyone else's, azguy -- I'm being entirely serious. The experts weigh in on the significance and motives behind Vito's trip:

Link:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Vito...1536/story.html

Excerpts:

Vito Rizzuto’s trip to Dominican Republic not to flee Charbonneau Commission, experts say
By Monique Muise and Michelle Lalonde, The Gazette
January 18, 2013

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While he may have simply been fleeing winter’s icy grip, there is also the possibility that Rizzuto, recently released from a U.S. prison, is trying to avoid testifying before the high-profile public inquiry, which resumes hearings on Monday morning.

The federal Department of Justice confirmed Thursday that Canada has no extradition treaty with the Dominican Republic, so if that is where Rizzuto is currently vacationing, authorities may not be able to force him back home to appear before Justice France Charbonneau.

Rumours have been swirling for weeks that the commission’s legal team has subpoenaed Rizzuto, once believed to be Canada’s most powerful Mafia don. The witness list has been a closely-guarded secret, however, and until Friday, officials had refused to confirm if Rizzuto is on it.

On Friday, commission spokesperson Richard Bourdon confirmed that Rizzuto has indeed been subpoenaed to appear, and the commission also released the names of the three witnesses expected to testify on Monday. Rizzuto is not among them and Bourdon said there is still no date set for Rizzuto’s testimony.

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More recently, one of Rizzuto’s associates, Raynald Desjardins, fought a subpoena sent to him from the Charbonneau Commission last fall. His attempts to have it retracted based on the fact that he is currently facing a murder charge were unsuccessful. Desjardins is expected to take the stand sometime in the next several weeks.

But some say it’s unlikely Rizzuto would stay abroad to evade the commission.

“My sources say he’s just gone down there for a week,” said André Cédilot, co-author of the book Mafia Inc.: The Long Bloody Reign of Canada’s Sicilian clan. “I guess the guy wants a bit of fresh air after being in prison all those years.”

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But Cédilot insists Rizzuto would not risk getting charged with contempt for evading a subpoena to appear before the commission.

“He is quite capable of testifying, as he has done two or three times before in different trials,” Cédilot said. “He is not a fool. His life is here in Montreal; his family is here, his business is here.”

Bloc Québécois MP Maria Mourani, who has written two books on street gangs and organized crime, said Rizzuto is likely either dealing with business interests in the Dominican, or taking a vacation, not evading Charbonneau.

“If he testifies, he is not obliged to say what he knows ... I have no information to say Vito Rizzuto would go to the Dominican Republic to evade Charbonneau. If he does that, it would mean he is retiring, that he is no longer willing to fight for his territory in Montreal, and I have seen no indication that he is ready to retire,” Mourani said.

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This article has video of Rizzuto returning from holidays being pestered by press as he walks through airport.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/dossie...en-catimini.php


The symbolism was strong. While a member of a faction suspected him of being unfaithful was exposed at the funeral home, Vito Rizzuto returned to Montreal in the way that is more relaxed yesterday, walking without bodyguards among tourists returning from South.

Tanned, wearing a white t-shirt, jeans, a tracksuit and a baseball cap, the sexagenarian freshly released from prison seemed in good shape. He returned from ten days in the sun of the Dominican Republic, where he escaped the wave of Arctic cold that swept over Quebec.

It was her first vacation in years. In October, Vito Rizzuto has finished serving a sentence of 10 years in prison in the United States for his involvement in the murder of three captains rebels mafia in New York in 1981.

Anyone who may have recently regained its title mobster, or be in the process of doing, according to sources well connected to the community, however, has shown annoyed yesterday to be greeted by a team of La Presse at Pierre Elliott Trudeau.

He swept a gesture of exasperation questions that were asked before hurry to leave, dragging his suitcase. Not a word about his state of mind or the citation he received to testify before the commission Charbonneau.

His wife, Giovanna Cammalleri, shook his head in disgust when he saw the crowd began to turn, alerted by the cameras.

Series of attacks

While Vito Rizzuto was returning from vacation, a veteran of the Montreal underworld murdered recently went quietly to his final resting place. Gaetan Gosselin was exposed in a funeral home east of the city, where many people came to offer their condolences to his family.

Gosselin was a business partner of Raynald Desjardins, Rizzuto near old suspected by police of being involved in an attempted takeover of the Rizzuto Mafia while in prison in the United States in recent years.

It is the latest in a long line of victims of attacks among the factions that have been disloyal in the absence of the sponsor. His death notice is clear allegiances: he said that Gosselin is survived by his family, his friends, "but especially his best friend forever, Raynald Desjardins."

Desjardins is incarcerated awaiting trial for the murder of Salvatore Montagna aspiring sponsor, another mobster who tried to take advantage of the vacuum created by the imprisonment of Vito Rizzuto United States. The father and son were killed Rizzuto at this time, as several members of his organization, while his brother disappeared without a trace.

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I wish we knew more about the factions and what is going on up there, it does seem a tad surprising that he could be gone for so long and have his father and son both killed and get the top spot back with little opposition....


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This has been well known or speculated about here and other places but I don't' recall ever seeing it reported.

http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/societe/2013/01/30/002-tony-magi-mafia.shtml

EXCLUSIVE - The murder of Nick Rizzuto Jr., occurred three years ago in Montreal, has still not been solved by the police, but the eyes are a real estate close to the mafia.

Businessman Tony Magi, who himself has been the target of an assassination attempt in 2008, had borrowed heavily to the Rizzuto clan for the project located at 1000, rue de la Commune East, in the Old Port of Montreal, one of the most prestigious addresses in Montreal. In the early 2000s, he transformed this former warehouse refrigeration condo building. The most luxurious can be worth up to $ 5 million.

Serious financial problems at the beginning of the project would have Tony Magi to incur large debts to the entourage of Vito Rizzuto. While in prison, Mr. Rizzuto has charged his son Nick to press for Mr. Magi to repay his due, but in vain. In 2008, Mr. Magi miraculously survives an assassination attempt.

Nick Rizzuto Jr. was killed in the streets, in Montreal, December 28, 2009.
A year and a half later, it was Nick Rizzuto Jr. who was assassinated in front of the offices of Tony Magi.

The contractor he played a role in this event? Police sources believe credible.

"According to information I have, that contract was executed by Joseph Ducarme at the request of Tony Magi [...] Of course, these are allegations," said the Bloc Quebecois Maria Mourani, specializing in street gangs and mafia.

Tony Magi is at tile for a long time and feared the vengeance of the Godfather, Vito Rizzuto, the father of Nick Jr.

This is another businessman with ties to the Mafia, Terry Pomerantz, who completed the project in 1000, de la Commune East. He sold five condos in the Rizzuto family for $ 1.6 million.

The survey team learned that twenty condominium building were occupied in recent years by members of organized crime. Hells Angels members of street gangs and mafia. It is therefore an ideal place to do business away from prying eyes.

Tony Magi was for many years a leading player in the residential development in the west of Montreal. Surprisingly, he had contacts with several mayors, despite the suspicions of the police against him.

A report by Alain Gravel

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it would be kind of interesting that the reason Vito took a vacation during this period is that he has already put a hit on the person/people that killed his son...

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http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/01/31/une-alliance-redoutable

The Mafia, the Hells Angels biker and street gangs are now a team within a broad alliance in Montreal, a formidable business partnership in which the police are confronted for the first time.

This is the police chief of Montreal, Marc Parent, who has himself confirmed to the Journal yesterday in an interview.

"Even street gangs come to associate with the bikers and the Italian Mafia, we understand that business associations are not seen as illegitimate before. Now, what happens with organized crime, it is like a Lego building blocks, "the chief imaged Parent, citing the" structure "with multiple colors.

"Buy peace"

According to him, the various factions of organized crime in Montreal have joined forces to "buy a form of peace and achieve a single purpose: to make money."

"They come together to take advantage of all sorts of illicit activities, whether drug trafficking, firearms, trafficking and even white-collar crime. They together define the markets they want to develop and optimize their respective expertise. There are no borders, "he said, in the light of observations made by the officers on the ground in recent months.

Return of the sponsor

According to the number one SPVM return the sponsor Vito Rizzuto, who seems to have taken over the reins of the Montreal Mafia, partly explain this union actors underworld.

"Obviously, the return of Vito Rizzuto led everyone to try to establish its territory, but it is a phenomenon that can not be attributed to one person. It is a situation. "

The emergence of this new kind of conglomerate was going on since last summer. On the evening of August 10, the head of Bo-Gars, "Big" Chenier Dupuy, was shot in the parking lot of Galeries d'Anjou. In previous days, the veteran gang allegiance "red" was categorically opposed to a business alliance with the "blues", proposed by a man of the Hells Angels, Gregory Wooley, during a meeting he had convened and multi gang leaders in a bar in Sainte-Adèle.

For Dupuy, it was not a matter of working with what he called "the licheux of bécyc" (bikers). Since it is the calm in street gangs.

For cons, the Montreal Mafia was marked by seven murders over the last four months.

"We take it very seriously and we must remain vigilant, said the director Parent. Our police Eclipse group play an important role in the field. Our whole world is engaged and we share our information with our partners in other police forces. "

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up to now, I still havent figured out, who this 50th anniversary was for. It had all these leading memebers there???
Can they, at least mention, a place where it took place?

or have i missed something?

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Originally Posted By: jackbottoxxx
up to now, I still havent figured out, who this 50th anniversary was for. It had all these leading memebers there???
Can they, at least mention, a place where it took place?

or have i missed something?


It took place in Vaughan, Ontario.


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up to now, I still havent figured out, who this 50th anniversary was for. It had all these leading memebers there???
Can they, at least mention, a place where it took place?

or have i missed something?


It took place in Vaughan, Ontario.


Sonny_Black:

jackbottoxxx knows the function took place in Vaughan -- see his earlier post in the thread. He wants specifics: names of the organized-crime figures, name of the banquet hall.

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yes, exactly. wasn't sure if it was a banquet hall or maybe a big restaurant or somnething.

how many banquet halls are found in Vaughan, Ontario?? a dozen or so??

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
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Originally Posted By: jackbottoxxx
up to now, I still havent figured out, who this 50th anniversary was for. It had all these leading memebers there???
Can they, at least mention, a place where it took place?

or have i missed something?


It took place in Vaughan, Ontario.


Sonny_Black:

jackbottoxxx knows the function took place in Vaughan -- see his earlier post in the thread. He wants specifics: names of the organized-crime figures, name of the banquet hall.



I misread, my bad.


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Originally Posted By: jackbottoxxx
up to now, I still havent figured out, who this 50th anniversary was for. It had all these leading memebers there???
Can they, at least mention, a place where it took place?

or have i missed something?


Jack, you haven't missed anything.

Organized-crime author and Toronto Star reporter Peter Edwards did not mention the Sicilian Cosa Nostra and 'ndrangheta members. Nor did he mention the venue. He can't mention names for the same various reasons all other writers who write about organized crime do not divulge the names of some people who are still alive: fear of libel, endangering the safety of named individuals, etc.

Even when a writer provides details about an unnamed individual mentioned in an article or a book, too many details or one minor detail will tip off the reader as to who the individual is -- and this may have disastrous consequences for the individual.

One educated guess I have about the 2011 interaction between Sicilian Cosa Nostra and 'ndrangheta members at the social function is that Edwards was referring to the fact that an important strategic mafia intermarriage took place in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) in 2005 or 2006: a relative of Antonio Cammalleri married a relative of Cosimo Commisso. Cammalleri's niece is Vito Rizzuto's wife, Giovanna, who is originally from Toronto. Commisso, as many Canadian mobwatchers know, is the oldest of the three brothers who have had a long standing in the Canadian mafia. Law enforcement has dubbed the Sicilian Cosa Nostra group headed by Cammalleri the Toronto Sicilian Group -- it has been considered an arm or wing of the Rizzuto organization in Montreal. Commisso is believed to be the head of the 'ndrangheta Siderno Group organization in the GTA -- as capo crimine, he has the final say in a seven-man camera di controllo that consists of him and six other clan leaders.

I have previously mentioned on this forum and other forums the length, depth, and breadth of the friendly ties between mafiosi in Ontario and Quebec -- these ties span decades. Specifically, I trotted out Italian antimafia intelligence from the 2010 Operazione Il Crimine report on the Calabrian mafia to show close links in the previous decade between the Commisso clan (in Ontario and Italy) and the administration of the Montreal Mafia in the 2000s -- see, for example,

Montreal Mafia and the Siderno Group

This intelligence may support the argument that any Ontario-Calabrian-mob involvement in Montreal's mayhem the last few years did not come from the Siderno Group; therefore, when I read past or current articles that state Ontario is calling the shots in Montreal, I cringe or laugh. What I do concede is that there is a plausible theory the Luppino-Violi group in Hamilton was somehow involved in the high-profile murders of Paolo Renda, Agostino Cun-trera, and Nick Rizzuto Sr., as Paolo Violi's sons -- Domenico and Giuseppe -- might have wanted nothing more than to see the murders of their father and uncles avenged one day.

Nevertheless, I do not believe the Calabrian organized-crime groups in Ontario act as one. Ever.

The Italian antimafia intelligence, of course, might have been wrong to begin with or outdated -- which bothers me to no end because the Italian and Canadian authorities who battle Italian organized crime often butt heads about why Canadian law enforcement doesn't act on the intelligence provided by Italian law enforcement. The Italian report containing the intelligence was supposed to be current up to May 2010, and this report asserted that Vito Rizzuto was the head of a complex criminal organization based in Montreal that operated mostly in Montreal and Toronto and that consisted of multiple cells consisting of both Calabrian and Sicilian groups. Yet, as we all know, many writers of English-, French-, and Italian-language articles about the conflict in Montreal have no knowledge of this report and the intelligence contained therein and have simplistically framed the conflict in Montreal as Toronto-Calabrian-mob-group vs. Montreal-Sicilian-mob-group, Ontario-Calabrian-mob-groups vs. Montreal-Sicilian-mob-group, Ontario-Calabrian-and-Montreal-Calabrian-mob-groups vs. Montreal-Sicilian-mob-group, 'ndrangheta vs. Sicilian Cosa Nostra, etc.

I think that by now many posters here and on other organized-crime forums have seen how homogeneous the Montreal Mafia has been since at least the late 1980s, that many influential Montrealers have neither Sicilian nor Calabrian ancestry but ancestry from other Italian regions, and that even seasoned journalists and organized-crime experts -- both those based in Quebec and Ontario -- have misidentified organized-crime figures as being Calabrian, in some cases believing for decades that someone such as Jos Di Maulo was born in Calabria when in fact he was born in Campobasso, Molise.

While I understand that Vito Rizzuto may have lost allies he once had in the GTA up to at least the mid-2000s, I don't understand how journalists and writers who follow Italian organized crime seem to be unaware of the important organized-crime figures in Ontario that Vito, his father, and others like Francesco Arcadi had known -- as though the Rizzuto organization had no established roots in Toronto; as though the Rizzutos didn't know anyone in the GTA, Hamilton, or Ottawa; as though the Montreal Mafia had no revenue from criminal activities in Ontario. People should read the revised edition of The Sixth Family to see more clearly the influence that law enforcement believed Vito to have in the GTA. (pp. 320, 321) We should remember that in the 1980s Nick Rizzuto Sr. had established residence in Toronto for a short period, living in the city up until late 1987 -- see, for example, the newspaper articles cited below:

Ex-Metro man facing drug charges after Venezuelan cocaine-ring bust:[SU2 Edition]. Toronto Star. Toronto, Ont.: Feb 14, 1988. p. A4

Mounties work to halt drugs entering Canada:[FIN Edition]. Kevin Donovan. Toronto Star. Toronto, Ont.: Feb 15, 1988. p. A8

Throughout Canadian mafia history, members of American LCN, Sicilian CN, and the 'ndrangheta have often run in the same circles and without friction. In December 1991, Peter Edwards and a colleague respectively wrote two articles about a gambling-house raid in Toronto that listed many organized-crime figures who were arrested and charged -- the excerpts below illustrate the intersection I mentioned just above.

Charged with being found in a common gaming house and being found in a common betting house are Peter Scarcella, 41, of Misty Meadow Dr., Woodbridge; Enio Mora, 42, of Northpark Dr., Toronto; Giacinto Arcuri, 61, of Reiner Rd., Toronto; and Antonino Cammalleri, 62, of Hartley Ave., Toronto.

Source: Police arrest 41 in big-money gambling raid:[SA2 Edition]. Peter Edwards. Toronto Star. Toronto, Ont.: Dec 14, 1991. p. A23

A week later, an update on the story was published. From the article:

Charged with being found in a common betting house and being found in a common gaming house are: Biagio Guarraggi, 38, of Ennerdale Rd., Salvatore Crimi, 44, of Lansdowne Ave., Visanto Mastrianni, 37, of Times Rd., Salvatore Villa, 47, of Roundtree Dr. in Rexdale, Umberto Campagna, 50, of Dynevor Rd., Mark Vitale, 50, of Newport Sq. in Thornhill, Massemo Santobuono, 27, of Lauder Ave., Nick Galifi, 56, of Kingdom St., Antonio Carullo, 41, of Valleyway Cres. in Maple, Corrado Gambon, 44, of Davenport Rd., Frank Vocaturo, 38, of Oakwood Ave., Carlo Rizzuto, 42, of Joan Dr. in Mississauga, and Giuseppe Andriano, 43, of Ramsden Rd.

Source: More gambling charges laid in second police raid on cafe:[SA2 Edition]. Brixton Lagac. Toronto Star. Toronto, Ont.: Dec 21, 1991. p. A7

The last name in the above list is that of one of the seven Siderno Group clan leaders in the GTA who were named in the Operazione Il Crimine report: Giuseppe Andriano, or Andrianò.

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Thank you, for the very informative insight on certain details, i was missing and understanding the nature of reporting certain facts.
What my interest was about, regarding this 50th anniversery. How influential was this important couple and how they were able to invite all these head figures to their event.

Also, i too, am a firm believer that this calabria vs. sicilia feud is never been a debate ever. I am sure there is, time to time, they probably poke fun at each other. I see it all the time. Not sure if that is the case in Italy or elsewhere.
The co-existence between the two, ranges from marriages, relations, friendships and most important, business.
Isn't the children of antonio cammalleri, all married to calabrese spouses, from my understanding. His son-in-law is Vito's contact to Toronto??
I have never heard of Antonio Cammalleri as a high ranking cosa nostra figure in Toronto, aside from the other names you had highlighted, which are verified. His status has never been confirmed, aside from his niece's marriage to Rizzuto and his son-in-law's position to Vito. I have never heard in the ccircles, he was a Made-guy, nor does it make him the automatic leader.
I remember reading somewhere in those 6th family books, the others who you highlighted, had a higher status and were more influential figures, Plus, I have gathered, how they have relations to, Commisso and company too.

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Sorry in advance for the long post and I hope it all makes sense to you guys, I'm from Montreal and my english isn't 100% but its close. I've been reading the forums for a long time and thought I'd put some input.

I support the theory of antimafia on the Siderno group. I believe The Siderno group or other major groups are not participating in the extermination of the Rizzutos. The Siderno group and the Rizzutos have long standing ties that go back generations and they continue to build on that foundation.

Men who worked for Ponytail Devito were heard over wire taps saying they need approval from Ontario before taking out Nic Rizzuto SR. but I believe this approval would have come from Hamilton(Devito wouldn't be communicating directly with them, it would be his superiors)and the remaining Violi's.

That might explain why the Arcuri's are now being targetted beause they have been running the gelato business the Violi's had taken from them since Violi was taken out. They must have had a hand in the Violi murder back in the day and now his sons are saying these guys can't be around for the new order. How could the Arcuri's been loyal to the Violi's when they took there business? They should have gave that to Violi's kids or remianing family if they were loyal.

Most evidence would point towards in-fighting in recent years but what happen prior is what really catches my attention. Nick Rizzuto JR's death really kicked everything off. I don't see anyone in Montreal approving this hit at all. It wasn't a consensus, one particular crew made that decision. Was it the Devito group? Was it tony Magi who ordered the hit? I don't even think the Damicos from Granby had a hand it. THose guys are insignificant. They are smugglers but in the Montreal Mafia world they are nothing and if you are from Montreal and didn't have Rizzuto approval you wouldn't get it anywhere else either for that matter. In Montreal every crime group smuggles. Just the profit in bud is insane. It goes for double the price in the USA wholesale so essentially your trading bud for coke but the bud is really costing half the price here in Canada. That makes the coke price drop wayyy down for the guys trading up. I've personally known smugglers who are now in the hands of US Law enforcement and as runners they were making $10k-$20k a week and they were just drivers...Bottom of the barrel drivers. They took all the heat and made huge monney but I can only imagine what the bosses were racking in. I doubt even some made guys in new york are pulling in almost a million a year and are much more exposed to law enforcement.

On a side note there is a misconception on this forum of the role Montreal plays in smuggling. Montreal/Toronto are the worlds major drug traffikers right now. With Southern borders and American waters being so well guarded since 9/11, the Canadian borders and their lackluster border security give a huge advantage to Canadian crime groups and annually they are smugging billions. Bud, pills, hash, and heroin are mainly coming in through Canada in to the Usa and not from the South as it did many years ago. The New York crime families are a joke in comparison to the Canadian families in terms of revenue nowadays. In 20 years when all this shit is coming out you won't here anything about New York. Those are local criminals not internatial drug lords as the Toronto/Montreal guys have become.

Back on topic...Rizzuto had been locked up for years and Operation Colisee was long over and everyone was locked up for a period of time at that point. If a major Ontario group really wanted to do this they would have got the ball rolling in 2005-2006. I think Magi made a move to not pay his $5million debt to the Rizzutos and that got the ball rolling for people who already didn't like them or were big players and had been paying up for to long. To do that they had to take out Paolo Renda and those top guys. How they could ever get approval to take out Agostino [BadWord] is beyond me. Killing him is as signifcant as taking out a Rizzuto but the Violi's would have done it for sure. Who profited from their family being taken out? [BadWord] did, Renda did, Rizzuto SR did, Rizzuto JR did. DeVito isn't stupid. He blamed the Rizzutos for getting busted and for his wife killing his kids. He probably got his superiors to think hey its our time and let's go to Ontario for some support maybe even use the Calabrians to become 'Ndrangheta supported.

The Arcuri's having their long ties through their dad with the Bonanno's probably ended up sponsoring Montanga as did Pietriano, etc for the same reasons...I'm guessing Montagna went to Hamilton(noted by police) to get in on the deal they were making with Ponytail's crew (He is not a main guy, he is the face on the streets of that crew, and his bosses are now all getting taken out). Montangas argument could have been that Montreal was a bonnano faction and Rizzuto ruined it.

Once the main players on Rizzuto were taken out and it was time to decide who the boss, underboss, consigliere, etc were going to be I'm assuming thats when the in-fighting started and the locals must not have approved of Montanga. Desjardins, DiMaulo, and company probably said fuck Montanga he isn't from here and hasn't proven himself, why should he be boss. Thats when they tried to take our Desjardins but Desjardins got him first.

Theres a lot in between but thats the just of my theory. I can go on forever. You could write a book on the last few years of the Mob in Montreal.

Now Rizzuto is back. This guy is International. Guys waited for him. He has access to hundreds of soldiers. Nobody down there got real international approval to do what they did so he won't need any permission. He has 10-20 main guys to take out and he is back on top but not only back on top but stronger than ever, smarter than ever, and more prepared than ever. He is going to go down in mafia history as a don of don's. It will be scary what this man will achieve in the underworld.

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Good post,

welcome to the board.

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Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...r-les-verts.php

Google translation:

Vito Rizzuto back on the green
KATHLEEN LÉVESQUE
La Presse
Published on May 23, 2013 4:30 | Updated at 7:43

They say hunted since his release from prison last October, but that is no constraint that Vito Rizzuto advantage of the return of spring to exercise his swing golf. The mobster has even become a member of the private club Blainvillier few weeks ago, which seems to create some discomfort, learned La Presse.

Sollecito as partner

After paying the price of over $5000 to become a member, Vito Rizzuto played at least four times in two weeks Blainvillier, whose slogan is "the tranquility of a natural environment." Monday, May 6, he formed a "foursome" (quartet), especially with Stefano Sollecito, the son of Rocco Sollecito.

The Charbonneau commission identified Rocco Sollecito as one of the heads of the Rizzuto mafia clan. The construction industry was under his responsibility. The images captured under investigation Colosseum headquarters of the Mafia, the Consenza show entrepreneurs who pay money. In a hierarchy, contractors gave money to Nicolo Milioto, who deferred to Rocco Sollecito, who himself shared with the godfather Nicolo Rizzuto. Assassinated in November 2010, Nicolo Rizzuto was the father of Vito.

According to information gathered from various sources, the playing partner of Vito Rizzuto, Stefano Sollecito, "take the gallon with the sponsor." The two men were seen together regularly.

Brother Stefano, Mario Sollecito, also played golf with Vito Rizzuto to Blainvillier. According to the schedule Blainvillier consulted by La Presse, Tuesday, May 7, they began their part of the Royal course to 10:34. The next day, the two partners and two guests were the Royal route from 12:10. Vito Rizzuto also played last Friday.

The Blainvillier is also the golf club which was written the Calabrian Joe Di Maulo. Residence, to which he was assassinated on November 4, bordering the golf course. According to police, Joe Di Maulo was associated with the events that led to the fall of the Rizzuto clan or would have been disloyal in recent years.

Members Blainvillier were summoned to an information meeting on Wednesday evening. Besides the usual questions about the financial statements of the club, Andre Boyer did not expect that there are any questions or even comments about Vito Rizzuto. "It is very discreet. It does not bother anyone, "says Boyer.

It is true that Vito Rizzuto was described before the Charbonneau commission by witnesses who attended during golf trips as "an excellent traveling companion," a good golf partner, a man with the "sense of the humor "and even a" gentleman. "

In addition, Vito Rizzuto was seen in Little Italy at the end of last week. It would be his first visit to this area considered one of the castles of his clan since his release from prison in October denier. The sponsor, who was traveling in a sport utility vehicle driven by a chauffeur, had walked a little in the neighborhood, met with residents and shook hands. Our sources believe that this public release in one of its strongholds shows that have taken over the state of organized crime in Montreal.

-With the help of Daniel Renaud

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Originally Posted By: jackbottoxxx
here is that arrest they made, years ago, regarding Domenico Terrasi.

check out this news guy, reporting it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ7qhptYEV4&feature=related


Domenico Terrasi was just sentenced yesterday to nearly 13 years.


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Originally Posted By: livelifenoregrets
Sorry in advance for the long post and I hope it all makes sense to you guys, I'm from Montreal and my english isn't 100% but its close. I've been reading the forums for a long time and thought I'd put some input.

I support the theory of antimafia on the Siderno group. I believe The Siderno group or other major groups are not participating in the extermination of the Rizzutos. The Siderno group and the Rizzutos have long standing ties that go back generations and they continue to build on that foundation.

Men who worked for Ponytail Devito were heard over wire taps saying they need approval from Ontario before taking out Nic Rizzuto SR. but I believe this approval would have come from Hamilton(Devito wouldn't be communicating directly with them, it would be his superiors)and the remaining Violi's.

That might explain why the Arcuri's are now being targetted beause they have been running the gelato business the Violi's had taken from them since Violi was taken out. They must have had a hand in the Violi murder back in the day and now his sons are saying these guys can't be around for the new order. How could the Arcuri's been loyal to the Violi's when they took there business? They should have gave that to Violi's kids or remianing family if they were loyal.

Most evidence would point towards in-fighting in recent years but what happen prior is what really catches my attention. Nick Rizzuto JR's death really kicked everything off. I don't see anyone in Montreal approving this hit at all. It wasn't a consensus, one particular crew made that decision. Was it the Devito group? Was it tony Magi who ordered the hit? I don't even think the Damicos from Granby had a hand it. THose guys are insignificant. They are smugglers but in the Montreal Mafia world they are nothing and if you are from Montreal and didn't have Rizzuto approval you wouldn't get it anywhere else either for that matter. In Montreal every crime group smuggles. Just the profit in bud is insane. It goes for double the price in the USA wholesale so essentially your trading bud for coke but the bud is really costing half the price here in Canada. That makes the coke price drop wayyy down for the guys trading up. I've personally known smugglers who are now in the hands of US Law enforcement and as runners they were making $10k-$20k a week and they were just drivers...Bottom of the barrel drivers. They took all the heat and made huge monney but I can only imagine what the bosses were racking in. I doubt even some made guys in new york are pulling in almost a million a year and are much more exposed to law enforcement.

On a side note there is a misconception on this forum of the role Montreal plays in smuggling. Montreal/Toronto are the worlds major drug traffikers right now. With Southern borders and American waters being so well guarded since 9/11, the Canadian borders and their lackluster border security give a huge advantage to Canadian crime groups and annually they are smugging billions. Bud, pills, hash, and heroin are mainly coming in through Canada in to the Usa and not from the South as it did many years ago. The New York crime families are a joke in comparison to the Canadian families in terms of revenue nowadays. In 20 years when all this shit is coming out you won't here anything about New York. Those are local criminals not internatial drug lords as the Toronto/Montreal guys have become.

Back on topic...Rizzuto had been locked up for years and Operation Colisee was long over and everyone was locked up for a period of time at that point. If a major Ontario group really wanted to do this they would have got the ball rolling in 2005-2006. I think Magi made a move to not pay his $5million debt to the Rizzutos and that got the ball rolling for people who already didn't like them or were big players and had been paying up for to long. To do that they had to take out Paolo Renda and those top guys. How they could ever get approval to take out Agostino [BadWord] is beyond me. Killing him is as signifcant as taking out a Rizzuto but the Violi's would have done it for sure. Who profited from their family being taken out? [BadWord] did, Renda did, Rizzuto SR did, Rizzuto JR did. DeVito isn't stupid. He blamed the Rizzutos for getting busted and for his wife killing his kids. He probably got his superiors to think hey its our time and let's go to Ontario for some support maybe even use the Calabrians to become 'Ndrangheta supported.

The Arcuri's having their long ties through their dad with the Bonanno's probably ended up sponsoring Montanga as did Pietriano, etc for the same reasons...I'm guessing Montagna went to Hamilton(noted by police) to get in on the deal they were making with Ponytail's crew (He is not a main guy, he is the face on the streets of that crew, and his bosses are now all getting taken out). Montangas argument could have been that Montreal was a bonnano faction and Rizzuto ruined it.

Once the main players on Rizzuto were taken out and it was time to decide who the boss, underboss, consigliere, etc were going to be I'm assuming thats when the in-fighting started and the locals must not have approved of Montanga. Desjardins, DiMaulo, and company probably said fuck Montanga he isn't from here and hasn't proven himself, why should he be boss. Thats when they tried to take our Desjardins but Desjardins got him first.

Theres a lot in between but thats the just of my theory. I can go on forever. You could write a book on the last few years of the Mob in Montreal.

Now Rizzuto is back. This guy is International. Guys waited for him. He has access to hundreds of soldiers. Nobody down there got real international approval to do what they did so he won't need any permission. He has 10-20 main guys to take out and he is back on top but not only back on top but stronger than ever, smarter than ever, and more prepared than ever. He is going to go down in mafia history as a don of don's. It will be scary what this man will achieve in the underworld.


Hundreds of soldiers? Vitale testified that they had 20 made guys. THen half of them got murdered.

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Originally Posted By: livelifenoregrets
He is going to go down in mafia history as a don of don's. It will be scary what this man will achieve in the underworld.


That's a pretty ambitious statement.


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Last night the French-language Journal de Montréal reported that Rizzuto and his wife recently moved to the Sainte-Dorothée area of Laval (a suburb immediately north of Montreal with a large Italian-Canadian population).

Link to the currently pay-to-read article:

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/08/28/rizzuto-sinstalle-a-laval

(These pay-to-read articles often become public at some point, so when the aforementioned one does, I'll copy and paste a translation in this thread.)

Some other links to French-language articles on this subject:

http://www.985fm.ca/national/nouvelles/vito-rizzuto-demenage-a-laval-262258.html

http://quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/08/29/mafia-vito-rizzuto-sinstalle-a-laval_n_3835248.html

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Link to English-language article:

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2013/08/20130829-104957.html

Excerpts:

Laval, Quebec neighbours not keen on mobster's move
QMI Agency
10:49 am, August 29th, 2013

[snip]

The new neighbours of notorious Mafioso Vito Rizzuto told QMI Agency they are more than worried about the man who moved across the river from Montreal into Laval, QC.

"Why does he have to move here, in a residential neighbourhood with children?" asked one neighbour, who refused to have their name published. "I don't want to live here anymore."

[snip]

Real estate documents reveal the 16,000-square ft. house was bought for $874,000 and is located by the river that separates Montreal and Laval. Rizzuto took possession on July 1.

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Link:

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/vito-rizzuto-moves-to-home-near-laval-golf-course-1.1432163

Excerpt:

Vito Rizzuto moves to home near Laval golf course
CTV Montreal
Published Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:32PM EDT
Last Updated Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:01PM EDT

Reputed Mafia godfather Vito Rizzuto has moved out of Montreal and into western Laval, having relocated to a home on Patrick St. in St-Dorothee.

The 67-year-old Rizzuto reportedly moved into the lavish home near the Islesmere Golf Club on July 1.
The home was purchased under the name of Giovanna Cammalleri, Rizzuto's wife. It was originally listed at $1,295,000 but the couple paid $874,000 for it.

Laval police representative Daniel Guerin told CTV Montreal Thursday that Laval residents have no reason to be fearful.

He said other known mobsters have lived in Laval over the past 20 years and not caused trouble and no special police presence has been required.

Guerin said, however, that a plan has been formulated by experienced officers to deal with any disruptions if they occur.
He said that police have not received any calls from residents expressing concern about Rizzuto’s presence. "Laval police are very confident that everything will be ok," he said....
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Link:

http://globalnews.ca/news/809754/vito-ri...eping-close-eye

Excerpts:

Vito Rizzuto’s new Laval home has neighbours worried, police keeping “close eye”
By Domenic Fazioli
Global News
August 29, 2013 4:19 pm

LAVAL – When reputed mob boss Vito Rizzuto was released from a U.S. prison last October, the question on everyone’s mind was “where would he settle?”

There were rumours he was in hiding and that he left Quebec.

That’s not the case.

The 67-year-old mafia kingpin is now a resident of Laval, to be more specific, the Ste-Dorothee district.

His new luxurious home, located on Patrick Street, overlooks the Islemere golf course.

[snip]

Some area residents say they are worried about their new neighbour.

In a rare move, Laval Police granted interviews on the issue.

“There is no danger for people living next to Mr. Rizzuto,” Lieutenant Daniel Guerin told Global News.

[snip]

Rizzuto’s son Leonardo and his daughter Bettina also own properties in the Ste-Dorothee area....

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Hundreds of soldiers? Vitale testified that they had 20 made guys. THen half of them got murdered.


For the record, that was the number of guys in Rizzuto's organization that were made members of the Bonanno family. There were others as well, though I'm not sure about "hundreds."


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Anyone know if Vito has legitimate front business'..??

Buying a $900k house with no income brings a lot of suspicion down here, I wonder what the Canadian equivalent of the IRS thinks about that...

Did he ever sell the house that had been on the marker for like 2 or 3 years....


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Below from an old thread on here was my correct feeling about DiMaulo and Desjardins just wanted to share it before it came true LOL.

Sonny Black your right it was tough because Agostino [BadWord] was a Capo then became underboss and was killed. I never heard of Arcadi becoming anything higher then Capo rank. Scarcella was at one time a part of Rizzuto family but, I assumed he still never stopped associating with the Rizuuto's. What confuses me is guys like the Di Maulo brothers strong supporters of Cotroni/Violi then worked for Rizzuto I didnt have Mukremin place them on the list because, I feared there loyalty was not true to Rizzuto's meaning they might be in this fiasco for the control of the family with always having alternative motives like Desjardins another Cotroni/Violi supporter who shifted being brother in law to one of the Di Maulo brothers. Guys please send names and or comments to help complete this chart, I am so grateful to Mukremin for doing this...


Mucci and Gallo are only being mentioned as soldiers and Gallo to me seems like a Consiglieri even though at the time Renda was until he went MIA but in reality I believe these two men to be earners and not more then soldiers due to lack of evidence.


Edited by Caramela77 (09/21/11 11:00 PM)

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Well,

Just finished reading "Business or Blood; Mafia Boss Vito Rizzuto's Last War"

Many interesting tidbits. Stories and events are kind of, all over the place including the parties involved.

To answer my own question; Chapter 24 : Tale of Betrayal.
It is documented by Intelligence on February 11, 2011. The 'Ndrangheta of Ontario attended the funeral of an original member of the "Camera di Controllo", very well respected individual, Cosimo Stalteri (note; was not pro-Vito). He remained neutral in the dismantling of the Rizzuto Empire.

From the funeral, the 'Ndrangheta of Ontario boarded a Chartered Bus to Hazelton Manor in Vaughan. For the 5oth anniversary of 'legendary' Paolo [BadWord]. Btw, had already Intelligence at this location and did not expect both intelligence teams to meet together at some point and were shocked. Supposedly, it would have shocked Rizzuto, it states.

Another point added, Paolo's cousin, Agostino was murdered seven months ago AND two months prior, the murder of Nicolo Sr.

I guess, it was for "BUSINISSI"

There are other good tidbits in the book regarding the Montreal war and how it transpired and how it fell apart amongst the rebellious clans. I guess Montagna became a victim of his own psyche and bit off more than he can chew, in a short period of time.

Another note, I came across about Montagna, as being Sicilian, Underboss for the Bonannos. He didn't meet with any Sicilians in Ontario, as noted; Chapter 16; Friends Like These. He met with the members of the "Camera di Controllo" throughout the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) and Luppinos in Hamilton.
Montagna ultimate goal was to control Port of Montreal and live in the GTA, close to the 'Ndrangheta of Ontario.

Happy reading and research.....

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