Congrats to Francesco Cali - I might take Cali's position as Capo, Cali is the future of La Cosa Nostra, I think someone with his Connection and Business Brain can sort it all, I'd love for him to become Boss.

You sound like Billy Crystal in Analyze This trying to Pronounce "Consigliere". Haha!

If the boss says ´he´s out, then he´s out. That is, he is demoted.

Being "retired" in the Mafia is not the usual way of being retired like when a plumber, banker, salesman, barber or whoever in the legitimate world is being retired. A made guy being retired is still in the mob. He is inactive, but still considered a made guy, still considered a member. So he is still available and can be called upon for tasks. He may not participate in weekly crew meetings or report to his captain or kick up money. But if his captain thinks the retired member is useful for something, the retired member has to oblige.

Pete will die in jail. And like someone said, he was basically the boss in name only.

Tony Megale comes home in the summer or 2014, assuming that no one in that Connecticut Gambino gambling bust a few months ago gives the Feds anything new about him (I doubt it, but you can never say never today).

Who knows what will happen? Even Cali as underboss is still mostly speculation at this point. It makes sense, given his age (not too young, not too old) and earning capability, but the Gambinos are going to be pretty flush in a year or two (for as long as it lasts, anyway). There will be more than a few guys who would fit the bill.

Cefalu need's a New Consigliere! Jo Jo Corozzo has been convicted Four times in the Four years, This can't isnt even good at his Job!, Jo might aswell go down to FBI HQ and turn himself in.

He's not consigliere, Bobby Vernace is.

Where is this?

Why don't you Interview? Then we'll all know, Nobody here is for SURE. Cali is either from New York or Italy but I'm sure that nobody is sure where he is from, just guessing.

Go to FiveFamiliesnyc.com and look up the Gambino Family Charts.

HA, Right. I think I have seen Five Families NYC website copy a piece of Wikipedia Source, I think both are un-reliable. Doesn't Dapper John on here control that website? Where is this source from. Counting that no report on The News, or any Mob Expert has agreed with this, I think Five Families NYC are on their own.

Why don't you ask him yourself? I'm no expert myself but Dap doesn't bullshit. I would certainly trust his charts more than your word. And if he copied from Wikipedia, then what source was it? Just wondering how your jumping to all of these conclusions.

No, No. I said I think, Maybe Dapper John and Wiki's was a Look-a-Like. I know he doesn't bullshit, but I mean.. How does he know this? To my knowledge, He doesn't have any Source of an Expert or maybe he does.

Like I said ask him. I don't know. All I know is that he's a good source of information for the mob. I have a feeling people copy Dap rather than the other way around. He had Frank Cali as the Gambino Underboss at least three days before someone on wikipedia changed it.

Yep, Wikipedia was changed Yesterday.

Find User:Don Calo - He is an AMAZING piece of Source and really know's his shit, He has created over 150 Profile's for The Sicilians and Americans, Great guy.

Really? How do you know this, Sorry to be a Bull Braker but I like to question if people really have SOLID evidence.

Cali is born and raised in the US. His parents are from Sicily. How do I know? He has been friends with my husband for years and before that Cali's father and my father in law were friends in Sicily. My husband was born and raised in Sicily, moved to Bensonhurst and was close w Cali there. Cali was a guest at my wedding in 96 at Cotillion Terrace in Bensonhurst. And they remain friends today. Who's my source? Me. Now I have no power and used the last charge of my phone to post this.

Now that's what i call a real hardcore loyalty showin 4 this forum

Your source is your self okay, My Grandfather was certainly born on 1904, He was also born in Sicily same as Charles Luciano. My Grandfather moved to America around the same time as Luciano, Luciano was a Criminal same as my Grandfather and the pair soon met each other in a Meeting, They then later did many business together including with Johnny Torrio and Al Capone. Who's my Source? Me. Lol, You believe that?

It is easy to claim someone is your friend, that is not proof. I'm relying on your word and with no FACTS on a piece of paper, or a website linked to this, then I can't take it as a fact though I think you are right, He was born in Usa.

Even Hurricane Sandy can't stop our Carmela... Best post ever.

Despite the fact that Carmela confirmed it too, I got this info from the indictments of the operation Old Bridge in 08.

My source is called multiple indictments and George Anastasia, it is WELL KNOWN that Vernace succeeded Jojo as the consig. Wikipedia is out of date.

Where have you been? It is common knowledge that Vernace was put in that slot a while ago. As a matter of fact, Vernace was on the three man ruling panel for a numebr of years running the family along with John Gambino and Daniel Marino before Cefalu was named Boss.

Yea, ALOT of other sites have copied my (and mukremin's) leadership charts on their own sites

Well, I didn't know Dapper J, I only thought but I was wrong, Since you are a Boss, please forgive me. , I haven't been looking at Wikipedia, Wiki is made up of References, Say if Vernace was The Real Consigliere, Solid Proof would have to be behind it, I know that Proof is behind it but According to Shity Wiki, Five Families NYC isnt a reliable-source.

Wiki doesnt say I am not a reliable source, WIki just hasnt been updated to reflect the current reality. They still had Amuso listed as Boss months after it was well-known that Crea took over. Wiki is good for historical information, but it is often very wrong when it comes to up-to-date happening particularly about LCN.

The problem is none of us there have Gang Land subscriptions, and we all err on what we can verify.

Not really, a number of us here have gangland subscriptions

here's a blurb from a recent gangland

"Cali’s ascension to the number two slot gives the Sicilians a clean sweep of top Gambino posts. Sources say the family’s consigliere, 63-year-old Bartolomeo (Bobby Glasses) Vernace, a low key, American born Queens-based wiseguy, also has roots in Sicily."

But you don't edit.

edit what?

see my above post