"the mafia prey on the weak" statements make me sick. You sit here and spend time making moral high ground statements. Why do you have thousands of comments on the subjects and the people? You make it sound like there mugging old ladies, taking Holloween candy from kids. It's a business, everyone who gets involved with them knows the deal. There are plebty of "normal people" who have made a living and provided for their families working with these guys. Prior to banks lending money to anyone and everyone within the last 10-15 years these guys provided a service. You'll pay dearly from use of that service but it is available. Even today if your short on a Thursday for payroll the next day see how many banks would help you out. Same as gambling, you want to play they give you the outlet, you play over your head that's your fault. Plain and simple they provide services. PREY ON THE WEAK, I can't tell you how aggravated those types of statements make me. So hypocritical, why are you here? You a preacher? Speaking of preying on the weak, being from Australia do you say the same to the farmers with the way they treat there sheep? Prey on the weak! That's such a disgusting statement.

I agree they need to hire some undesireables for the business. And to be candid it's their business on who they hire.

No ones denying that mobsters aren't exactly saints. But they are people too. And while what they do is unethical their are far worse sickos, lowlifes and organizations. It's like eastharlemital said, you could go your entire life without meeting one and you could be right next door. There's more grey area than you think

This is has nothing to with the godfather JC. It has more to do with the fact that despite negative traits of mobsters they are still people. In fact it's the opposite of a hollywood fic. The real life mob is violent and I don't condone what they do, but there's more to them than meets the eye. I am convinced of that

JasonAnthony and Crusher, where did you read that anyone said they were freat guys? Nobody has said that! And to lay out BS "they steal from innocent people" is such a fantasy to make yourself sound intellegent. Niether of you have a clue what your talking about! Zero! Your hiding in a basement trying to jam your BS down people's throat! You make these guys seem like they rob old ladies, steal lunch money. If you actually did live in an area where these guys are you would know there is nowhere safer! You two need to know what your talking about before you go spouting of your opinion as facts. One day you may meet someone who believes your BS, think about that poor person listening to you two.

JasonAnthony and Crusher, where did you read that anyone said they were freat guys? Nobody has said that! And to lay out BS "they steal from innocent people" is such a fantasy to make yourself sound intellegent. Niether of you have a clue what your talking about! Zero! Your hiding in a basement trying to jam your BS down people's throat! You make these guys seem like they rob old ladies, steal lunch money. If you actually did live in an area where these guys are you would know there is nowhere safer! You two need to know what your talking about before you go spouting of your opinion as facts. One day you may meet someone who believes your BS, think about that poor person listening to you two.

Once having and having, disrespectful? Read your response to Schmo! Read my posts! I'm throwing out my own ideas and thoughts, you two double team like your on the Commision!

What the fuck are you talking about man. Schmo is cool and I wasnt attacking him at all. I just didn't know what he meant and then he explained it so ther was no issue If you want to discuss mafia thats cool but lay off the fucking accusing bullshit

Look East since you new here i would just like to say welcome BUT there is no need to be disrespectful. Ok Jason and I dont act like know it alls because none of us are.

JasonAnthony and Crusher, where did you read that anyone said they were freat guys? Nobody has said that! And to lay out BS "they steal from innocent people" is such a fantasy to make yourself sound intellegent. Niether of you have a clue what your talking about! Zero! Your hiding in a basement trying to jam your BS down people's throat! You make these guys seem like they rob old ladies, steal lunch money. If you actually did live in an area where these guys are you would know there is nowhere safer! You two need to know what your talking about before you go spouting of your opinion as facts. One day you may meet someone who believes your BS, think about that poor person listening to you two.

Another expert. For an argument to fall flat on its face I would be like you and preface my statement as a fact. However as I stated they were my opinions. But since your such an expert, let me ask you this. How many gamblers were forced to gamble? Do you know how racketeering in construction works? I mean really know? Norway you've read that was skewed by a newspaper. And back to the original argument, before this got way off track. In my opinion completely disagree with the fact that Made Guys are common gang banger thieves who "prey" on the week. Just to be clear, they do not seek out people in a predatory manor whatsoever. And another part of my original opinion was if your so anti- Mafia and look down upon that life why are you here? You'll sit here share stories like you have first hand knowledge, talk as if your involved then spout some Moral agenda? It makes zero sense.

I agree eastharlemital. Jasonanthony I would encourage you to listen to this man. First off if the words 116th street don't mean anything to you I'll clear that up now: the genoveses most prominent crew is located there and the east Bronx. He sees these guys on the street and knows a few of them. I'd take his testimony over a guy from California.

Secondly while I don't discard your opinion I would also encourage you to think outside the box on this whole "mob is evil" crusade. No one denies that wise guys aren't angels from above, but what we must remember is that while they may be criminals, it doesn't necessarily mean they are monsters. I will never support the mafia, but they are people too. Their are gentleman and psychopaths within every organization in the world. The mob is no different. There is grey area

I agree. They don't necessarily care who gets hurt in their scams, but I've been told numerous times the mob does not seek out gamblers or people seeking loans. Rather it's the opposite. And you could call the businessman involved in racketeering just as crooked.