Well, if it was up to square foot it was, but then it is based on the population. I mean it's not like Obama didn't get the popular vote as well. He got over 3 million votes more than Romney.

I said I don't like this electoral college system, but it's a good way to have election results fast, for such a huge country like the US, when there's a clear winner and loser. If not, just as popular vote, the electoral college could end up like year 2000.

So, in short it IS an EV landslide for Obama after all making Nate Silver right? Last I saw a what, 3mil. popular vote difference??



TIS

So, in short it IS an EV landslide for Obama after all making Nate Silver right? Last I saw a what, 3mil. popular vote difference??



TIS

Then again, right direction depends on the point of view.

Yeah, if this election was based on the popular vote we might not have gotten a concession for weeks.

And everyone wanted it over the election day and there are who would shoot us if we talked about 2016.

Exactly. Partisans can (and will) spin anything.

On a lighter note, I find it hysterical that the conservatives are already "evolving" on immigration. They're already campaigning for 2016.

Good grief!

Yeah, imagine that. And everyone wanted it over the election day and there are people here who would shoot us if we talked about 2016.

So EC can stay as far as I'm concerned. If I moved to the US, I try to land in a Blue state.

California is nice this time of year. Then again CA is nice most any time of the year.


TIS

On a lighter note, I find it hysterical that the conservatives are already "evolving" on immigration. They're already campaigning for 2016.

Good grief!

I guess this means they'll soon "evolve" on Gay Marriage too?

On a lighter note, I find it hysterical that the conservatives are already "evolving" on immigration. They're already campaigning for 2016.

Good grief!

I Wept Last Night
Written By: John - Nov• 07•12
I don’t know how you reacted to the President’s re-election, but I can tell you how I reacted…I wept. American just re-elected a man whose political party made the very things God hates their plank. I wept not so much for myself, but for the four daughters that were sleeping in my house. What does this mean for them? What kind of world will they have when they are my age?

I wept not so much for myself but for the millions of babies that will continue to be aborted year after year. Make no mistake this president will continue to create a culture of death and will most likely appoint at least two people to our Nation’s Supreme Court. Any guesses as to how the people he appoints will feel about Roe verses Wade? Without a move of God abortion is here to stay and there is nothing that we can do about it.

I wept not so much for myself but for the status of marriage in our nation. Recently the president came out in favor of homosexual marriage…is it a coincidence that states are now voting to legalize it? What happens to churches that are against it? What happens to pastors who refuse to perform the ceremony? What happens to church members who are against it? What happens? The day is soon coming that if you speak of homosexuality as a sin you will be labeled a bigot and tried for hate speech.

I wept no so much for myself but for the very people who reelected our president. Have they read Romans 1:18-32? Do they know that the open acceptance of the things God hates is not a sign that judgment is coming; rather, it is a sign that judgment is already here? I think that above all of the other reasons—I wept because I knew judgment is here.

So how do we respond? In my flesh I want to shout SECESSION! When I look at the Electoral College map it just frustrates me to no end. A few states in the extreme corners of our country are making the decisions. The country I know and love would for the most part be the country I know and love without the North East, the West Coast, and the lower section of Florida. But I know secession is not going to fly anymore than it did during the Civil War so how do we respond?

First, we must pray. We are told in the Scriptures to pray for our leaders. God used Nebuchadnezzar just as much as He used David. Do not forget that! God is still in heaven and He is in control and that is true regardless of who is in the White House. We must pray for our president to have wisdom. We must pray for our congress to have wisdom. We must pray that God will confuse the counsel of the enemy and that His Word would be sought. We must pray.

Second, we must submit. Romans 13:1-2 specifically tells us to submit to the governing authorities and it specifically states that “For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.” When you resist the authority Paul says you resist God. So we must submit.

Third, we must share the Gospel. Those four corners of the country that my flesh wants to cut off the map happen to be the corners that need the Gospel. Politics will not change our nation…the Gospel will change our nation. Please hear me…you will not change this world by giving to political parties…you will change this world by living the Gospel, sharing the Gospel, and supporting those who share it. We must continue to support our army of missionaries here and across the world. We must share the Gospel.

Finally, we must (and you may laugh at this one) continue to have children and rear them in the things of God. I can think of no better missionary force than for the people of God to have God-fearing children. Kim and I have four beautiful daughters who love Jesus. The world they face is an uncertain world, but I will do all I can to teach them to follow Him. We must see the value of life not only as a thing to be supported, but also as a thing to be created. Go have babies and bring them up in the Lord and let’s teach them the very things of God!

http://johnthweatt.com/

2) A glance at the exit polls showed that Obama won the foreign policy question pretty handily. Only five percent of respondents thought that foreign policy was the most critical issue in this campaign -- but of those five percent, voters went for Obama over Romney by 56% to 33%. Voters were also more likely to trust Barack Obama in an international crisis (57%-42%) than Mitt Romney (50%-46%).

This is the first exit poll in at least three decades where the Democrat has outperformed the Republican on foreign policy and national security. And I guarantee that whoever runs from the GOP side in 2016 will not have a ton of foreign policy experience. The GOP has managed to squander an advantage in perceived foreign policy competency that it had owned for decades. This -- combined with shifts on social issues and demographics -- will be a problem that the Republicans are going to need to address.

Just a tidbit FWIW, CA IS a blue state. However talking to my two little granddaughters (8 & 10), they tell me that most kids in their classroom went for Romney (per their parents I assume). Imagine that?



TIS

I think they should nominate Lloyd in 2016. At around 1:22 of the clip you can see the campaign go up in flames.

In the pig's pork, they will.

No pun intended .

Lyndsey graham, a senator for South Carolina said he would kick anyone's ass who said the republicans needed to go MORE conservative I think that most of the conservative side is adhering a wake up call but it won't happen over night.

Who is John Weatt?? And why should I give two teeny turds if he was weeping? If he's so concerned about abortion, what does he do to help babies that are born? Does he volunteer in homeless shelters? Does he help feed the poor? Does he help place babies whose parents are unable to care for them? Is he a foster dad? I love people who want to force women to have babies, but don't do anything to help them.

I'll tell you, Ronnie. And this is the absolute truth. I worked in funeral service in NYC for 25 years. There are a number of gay men in that field for whatever the reason. And more than a few of them are conservative by nature. To think that they're all flaming liberals is to unfairly stereotype them. The GOP is nuts for not going after their vote by making nice.

Oh I would absolutely agree. But it's somewhat the same thing with Hispanics