quick question pizza, do you think the old guy angelo ponte the famous all around new yorker(garbage king ,restaurantour, mogul. after he did his time you think out of all his years of loyalty maybe whoever his capo or of friends in very high places just made him cause he never rolled and always helped out seemed like he was very well liked and that family has spots for all kinds thats why there on top i bet he got it and retired, i read some old guys do that to. a liftime of loyalty they never get made then at 75 its time, wtf(fredddie hotts?). i read of other guys that were just huge earners and loyal crooks, what did they have to lose if bosses want to make them. i read how the genovese guys in mass. have had a capo and others make guys. another crew it was the crew and capo in new jersey no bosses i read, just there bosses approval.just make a guy to have his kids loyal to the family right?