I don't think Difronzo is an informant.
Rico do you know the current health status of joe cullota and joe andrachii? A lot of people say their really sick, have cancer, ect. Do you know if that's true?

Who knows, accardo & difronzo are probably dry beefers, but they probably had something worked out that benefited everyone, and Johnny bananas sure as hell ain't going down for anything, he manned the ship when no one else wanted the responsibility, and he's ancient compared to those guys (except for Lombardo who fucked his own self). Marcello fucked himself too, with that mistress of his, but he will be back out and take back the reigns. But no way Johnny bananas was going down for a trio of knucklehead derpyderp idiots (The Three Calabrese) that shit where they ate one too many times. The only one on par with DiFronzo in that trial was Marcello. The Calabreses, schweihs, & Lumpy the clown was Grand & Chinatown guys, respectively, the two weakest families. The Calabreses especially were strong guys around the Port, but in the grand scheme of things they were just three Chinatown made guys that got popped for bein reckless clowns & dabbling in drugs. Not bosses of anything or top level guys.

I thought Marcello got life in prison?

"A confidential FBI informant, who felt abandoned by the Outfit and was motivated to talk, told the feds in 2007 that Mutt and Jeff “were the current Outfit bosses in the Chicago area,” according to the previously sealed federal document.
It details the bloody rise of Sarno in the mob, and Cataudella’s alleged supporting role...based on three confidential informants, including a veteran source who provided information for the last 25 years and is “personally acquainted with numerous top members of the Chicago Outfit.”
Another informant associated with two Outfit crews said the motive to provide information was “because many individuals, including a member of the Chicago Outfit, had abandoned” the informant.
The veteran informant noted that Sarno and one superior, Anthony Zizzo, had been involved in a “drawn out feud” over money shortly before Zizzo disappeared in August 2006, never to be seen again.
Zizzo had previously been assigned by mob bosses to straighten out something that Sarno had “f----- up” and that mistake had enraged then Outfit chief James Marcello, according to the veteran informant.
While one informant put Sarno and Cataudella at the top of the Chicago Outfit, another informant advised the FBI that Sarno was still turning over money to reputed Outfit underboss John “No Nose” DiFronzo, also known as “Johnny Bananas.” Another source of information noted that Sarno was higher in the leadership structure and collecting money from reputed 26th Street crew boss Frank “Tootsie Babe” Caruso."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/03/new-fbi-document-details-rise-of-mutt.html

"Calabrese testified in 2007 that DiFronzo was among the dozen or more men who fatally beat Anthony and Michael Spilotro in 1986, but he was never charged.

"We've tried to heal over the years," Patrick Spilotro said by phone from Arizona, "but there's still one person out there — John DiFronzo — who has not been indicted or convicted."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/06/weakened-by-convictions-chicago-mob.html

Here's a video interview with John DiFronzo

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/06/meet-boss-of-chicago-mob-john-no-nose.html

wonder who they are...

This is old news, and it obviously didn't do much damage. Family secrets trial was pretty irrelevant too, besides Marcello getting canned. But Cicero is so large & well organized that it wasn't a huge road bump.

didnt that guy sarno just get 30yrs in the feds that' 25yrs with good time i say thats alife sentence for anyone over 40ty especially for tall obese people.

yeah Most likely I heard is health is in bad shape right now
I agree that family secrets was way overhyped

Fat fuck sarno will get out much sooner than that, if he doesn't have a heart attack first. In all honesty, Cicero is much better off without him. His family has started the FREE BIG MIKE t-shirt craze here in Chicago, I guess one of the NY mob wives was seen wearing one, the outfit hates that shit, but that is a classic example of why sarno was headed to the can eventually anyways

Rico do you believe Frank Caruso kicked money up to Sarno? I've heard many people say it but i don't think that's true.

Yes if you'll scroll up I said that. Obviously Chinatown is beneath Cicero, they are a sub family, Cicero is the big daddy down there. Sarno is Cicero. Doesn't make him more powerful than Frank, but his crew is more powerful

i just realized your username is from a pizza place

Haha derp. More of an Italian food joint

watching this video it says rudy fratto is a top 5 guy in the outfit. They are also saying he's boss. http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8407085
He also mentions gene and georgettis
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8818674

Joe Fosco has been pushing the idea of DiFronzo being a dry snitch. He has some hatred/anger towards DiFronzo, so take it for what its worth. The guy does know his stuff, but there may be more to it.

One of DiFronzo's business's is a garbage hauling company. And there was a big story a few years ago because the tribune or sun times was found out that his company had a contract to haul garbage from a bunch of government buildings. The paper was wondering how a reputed mobsters company could be awarded a government contract. Don't remember how that ended up.

I'll tell you how it ended up: D&P is now the largest dumpster company in the Chicagoland area...... Like I said, DiFronzo & accardo were probably dry snitches, or had some old fed buddies up top from back in the day. Who knows. All we know is that Elmwood Park has been untouchable ever since Marco got out of the can. They were the only crew besides the Heights not touched during family secrets. They continue to operate & their legit businesses just keep on expanding, marianos is the new hot grocery store chain throughout the city, rivaling whole foods market in some areas.

Fosco is fosco, he is obviously extremely educated, but his views tend to be biased, obviously, especially towards Bananas & Elmwood Park, and I suppose its deserved, they did ruin his life, although he most likely brought the majority of it upon his own damn self.

Did you two check out the Cooley interviews i linked? I started a new thread for them, not sure if they've ever been posted or whether or not you seen em, but they're interesting to say the least.

what happened to fosco?

Rico,

Cooley claimed that Marco ran gambling in Rockford, but Saladino of Rockford was aligned with Calabrese and the Chinatown crew. How did that work out? Also was Marco with Cicero at one point? I know him and Sarno are very close. I assume Sarno named his son after him.

This is my line at Marianos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tncd84NYJ1Y

His story is the reason he started ANP, it is well documented on there. It is too lengthy for me to get into here, revert to anp.

Cheech (frank Sr) was a sloppy idiot, slopped things up up there, toots is close with Marco from way back, asked him to help clean things up, that's really the gist of it.

Marco spent 17 years in Cicero, him & Mooch Eboli were more or less Obrien's adopted sons, since Obrien couldn't have kids due to an unknown STD. Yes, fat sarnos punk kid is named after Marco.

Rico what is don scalises current involvement in the outfit?

Also what's actually going on with Mike Magnafichi why is he listed on charts still?

I cannot answer that sry

He's inactive & has been for over a decade. He's supposed to have a tag on his head, obviously, but I tend to think he's such a pathetic, broken down character, that they'll just let him burn out. He's irrelevant & harmless anyways. Saw him in line at a grocery store a few weeks ago and he did not look good.

I'm curious to know this: how come the Outfit has gone from one of the most powerful crime families in the US, to supposedly a mid-sized family run by a bunch of old farts who barely do anything except shuffle around social clubs and run video poker machines and a few legit businesses.

New York, no many how many times the Feds hit them always come back. Even the Colombo's, hell they aren't going away. The Genovese Family controls the entire port of New Jersey even in this day and age.

I'm not saying it's true, but it just seems Chicago slided in a very short period of time.

one word. competition.

Which is also strange because the New York Families have a lot more competition than the Chicago Outfit. Where does the Chicago Outfit receive major competition from ? Gangster Disciples ( who are busier shooting each other up than anything else ) ? Triads ( who only operate within their own community ) ? Latin Kingz and La Raza ? The Irish ? Middle Eastern clans ?
I'm not saying the groups I just named are completely disorganized, but in my book the Chicago Outfit is still the only criminal organization over there capable of infiltrating politics or pulling of labor racketeering.

The outfit seems like more of a suburban operation mostly involved with gambling and loansharking which to be honest isnt going to attract any competition, there sort of lucky in that sense that no other group has any large interest in gambling or loansharking otherwise there status might have been extinct a long time ago. The street gangs control most of the drug trade and big drug markets in chicago with the mexicans or whoever supplying. As far as polictical connections read this article. http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-2012/Gangs-and-Politicians-An-Unholy-Alliance/

Well now that's just simply not true. Sure, that is what the outfit would love to have people believe, but they are alive and doing very well, much better than they were doing during the first half of this decade. The biggest blows dealt were the jahoda & Cooley testimonies. Losing the 1st ward was the big one, but they just picked up & moved most of their business to the suburbs.

If you think the outfit is a couple of old farts that shuffle around social clubs & have a few body shops, youre an idiot, and sorely mistaken. They LOVE that people think that though.