It most certainly attracts competition. The competition just can't do anything about it. There are plenty of minority street gangs trying to beef with them over gambling/prostitution/drug sales out in stone/Melrose/Elmwood park, along mannheim road & Harlem ave, and other outfit controlled areas. Those neighbourhoods are just too outfit-heavy/heavily Italian. Keep in mind that the Outfit 100% controls law enforcement in: Elmwood park, Melrose park, stone park, Cicero, Berwyn, Westchester, darien, river grove, oak park, Lombard, Chicago heights, island lake, & several other suburbs. Even if the African/Hispanic street gangs wanted to infiltrate the underworld of those areas (we are talking HUGE areas, putting all of those towns together), they would have never been able to make more than a dent, at best paying a street boss tax to operate out of there. Chicago is hyper segregated, the gangs control their own areas. Why would the outfit desire control over blown out crack hole neighbourhoods?

Not entirely off topic, but thought you'd might like to read this.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news&id=3936339

you misread me. if the giants only played there scrub team for ten years, will they be able to compete against the rest of the nfl? competition is good for anyone. who does chicago compete with? the latin kings? the tri state area you got eight familys. chicago has one. big difference.

I don't recall replying to anything you said

then perhaps it wasnt directed torwards you?lol.

Well whether it was or wasn't, comparing the two is futile & ridiculous. Organized crime does not work like the NFL. The Outfit is better off & more powerful without competition. They never had any to begin with.

how are they better off?they got 28 guys.

Haha oh lord here we go again derpderpderp

your the 'expert'.lol. your to good to enlighten a cousin of yours from ny?

Not at all, there is 6 pages of "enlightenment" in this thread alone.

honestly the thread about dickienoses green shit is more entertaining than six pages of praising and worshipping a few old farts in chicago for masterminding a vast multi million dollar criminal enterprise.lol.

I don't think any of this was meant to be entertaining. If that's what you're looking for, I'd stick to threads about the loud mouthed goofball primadonna dives out east I also don't see any "worshipping of old farts) going on. Care to elaborate? You can believe what you'd like, obviously, no one is trying to convince you personally of anything. If you're going by what the feds "know", you're going off of "facts" that they've contributed that have been proven to be incorrect on many different occasions. Once again, it is what it is.

im laughing at the fact that you feel its your duty to 'defend' these guys like your defending the bears.lol. talk all you want about ny wiseguys, you wont see me defend them.hell they dont even defend each other.lol.

When & where have I defended any of these men. They're all scumbags & evil people. I don't say anything about NY guys because I don't know anything about NY, nor do I care to. I refuse to comment or question anything that I am uneducated on, what's the point? Besides, from what I can gather, those NY guys are pretty good about letting the world know what they're up to anyways, no? Anyone can just sit in the distance and fap "the feds said this the feds said that well i heard on the news derpderpderp". Also, I can't stand American football

What is it about Chi town guys always routing for the outfit like its their home team. You guys are always exagerating what the outfit really is these days. I am no expert on the outfit but it seems like on every forum I have been to the chicago guys act like there are a ton of mafia members and they are the most secretive family still to date. I just dont get it. I know the feds are not always right but why am I do believe forum posters on the internet who say there are so and so amount of members or that the outfit has so much political corruption like its 40 years ago or something. Do you know more then the feds just cause you live in Chicago??? You may know a few little things here and there that dont make the news like others of us Philly do or anywhere else cause your from the neighborhood. But I just dont get how you can over evaluate the Chicago outfit like many Chi town posters do. Sorry to include all Chicago guys as its probably not true but thats the pattern I have seen on these forums.

More derp, not interested

dont like american football?you even from chicago? or america?

I knew there had to be something off about you. No lika americana futobala?lol Anyway, I wasn't trying to be stupid (although I did have to look up what derp meant). Just trying to understand why Chicago guys seem to think there is more going on with the Outfit then there actually is? I have noticed a trend. Not just you. I was hoping you can explain where it comes from. I follow philly the closest and think I know a lot about them thats in and out of the news. But you have never heard me praise them or talk about them being bigger then they actually are. The FBI are on point with the amount of members and there basic activites. But when you talk to a chi town guy they are always talking about how secretive the outfit is and that the FBI doesnt know anything about them. But yet this guy on the internet who lives near Chicago knows more and I am suppose to believe them instead.

Well I was born in southeast Sicily but have been in Chicago since I was about 7. We grew up on basketball, soccer, and dutch style kickboxing. I appreciate & respect American football, I just wasn't raised on it, so i can't get into it wholeheartedly. Even upon moving to the states, we didn't watch it in the household

that makes sense. im sicilian on my fathers side.palermo.my mother has a little castellemarese in her [is that how you say it],but her family is mostly from naples.

maybe we are cousins.lol.

What town?

Buddy, buddy, no one is asking you to believe anything. This whole thread was more or less three Chicago guys shootin the shit, not much else. Ever think that you notice this trend because (gasp!) there may be some truth to it? I don't think there is a need to talk or gossip about philly, those guys do a good enough job of that themselves. You'll never catch a chicago guy on access Hollywood like a skinny merlino. the fact is, the outfit are certainly the most secretive group, this is not debatable. The feds are completely unreliable when it comes to the outfit, I don't know what is so difficult for you to grasp about this. Just because the clowns out in philly shit where they eat and walk with their nuts out doesn't mean Chicago is like that. The ideals & traditions are extremely different here. Being flashy & flamboyant is considered cowardly & shameful

Augusta

Ehh, close enough. And who knows, we could be! Two of my old man's brothers ended up in the bronx.

This is a little far-fetched. I have friends that have moved from other countries and they assimilated. Unless you were home-schooled I don't get it

Sicilians don't assimilate. They come to the US, find each other from their hometowns in Sicily, and stick with each other for life.

Well I agree with you as far as the ones who come for over there. But as far as having children and involving them in sports within the community and what not they don't want their children to be left out

I don't think he was serious, I think he was trying to, what do they call it, "troll" me.

very true.most italians in general. eighty percent of carroll gardens is from the same town. the whole bloomfield avenue area in newark is from avellino.