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Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: Scorsese] #681885
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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
That was actually a black vietnam vet named ike atkinson who was bringing the heroin using his army connects, and he was based in north carolina, Lucas was just one of his customers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ike_Atkinson
you should watch mr untouchable on netflix its barnes documentary in which he stars.


Cool Thanks Scorsese yeah that was a good movie but Frank was a snitch because someone messed with his women and I remember there was a lawsuit about him taking corrupt cops down because among the so-called corrupt cops was who else but Mr Hollywood Black Sunglasses fa***t Joe Pistone "That not true your honor can I have my allowance now for being a rat!"


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Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #681887
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Lucas testified against other drug dealers and criminals. The american gangster movie was factually inaccurate in many respects. I think they tried to make the main character a mix of different real life characters.
Lucas was actually caught after a raid on some gambino drug dealers who gave him up as one of their customers.

Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #681890
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Cool Thanks Scorsese yeah that was a good movie but Frank was a snitch because someone messed with his women and I remember there was a lawsuit about him taking corrupt cops down because among the so-called corrupt cops was who else but Mr Hollywood Black Sunglasses fa***t Joe Pistone "That not true your honor can I have my allowance now for being a rat!"

The main cop was Bob Leuci, Dicknose. They called him "BabyFace." He was at the center of the Knapp Commission investigation. His story was told in the book and movie "Prince of the City." He later went on to become a bestselling crime fiction writer in his own right.


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Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: tiger84] #681953
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Ok this is the story with frank lucas nicky barnes

Nicky bought from Madonna

Frank lucas cousin was the mastermind of the Heroin in the coffin

NB was head of the council which was 7 black dealers running NY FL was not a member of this council

FL snitchched on cops NB got sentenced to life than a year later found out one of the council members was fuckin his wife so then he snitched.But he never snitched on MM if u watch Mr untouchable he talks with contempt about the council members but always talks good of mathew madonna

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Originally Posted By: tiger84
Ok this is the story with frank lucas nicky barnes

Nicky bought from Madonna

Frank lucas cousin was the mastermind of the Heroin in the coffin

NB was head of the council which was 7 black dealers running NY FL was not a member of this council

FL snitchched on cops NB got sentenced to life than a year later found out one of the council members was fuckin his wife so then he snitched.But he never snitched on MM if u watch Mr untouchable he talks with contempt about the council members but always talks good of mathew madonna


Who frank lucas snitched on and didn't snitch on is up for debate. According to nicky barnes as well as fuckin his wife they were also trying to cut him out. Madonna actually claimed in some appeals papers that barnes was purposely placed in a custody cell next to his during grand testimony hearing in the late 70s in order to get him to say incriminating things. Barnes doesnt really mention madonna towards the end of mr untouchable, he only really comes up at the beginning.

Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: Scorsese] #682011
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Also Ike Atkinson denies any sort of blood relation to Lucas. Atkinson was running his own separate smuggling and distribution organisation using his military no how and connects.

Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: tiger84] #682014
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dicknose I sincerely would become a rat, because having twenty years, spending most of my youth in prison, not for me, then it depends if You are 50/60 years old can also be. Next depends on whether one man is strong or not, when Madonna went to jail, the Mafia was stronger it was well worth to get 30 years in jail, but now is not so. A mobster would be the end of Peter Schibetta and be raped by any ni**er or Aryan.

Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: tiger84] #682028
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a human being can only take 'so much' time inside. m.m. catches a big sentence,who knows?

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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
a human being can only take 'so much' time inside. m.m. catches a big sentence,who knows?


MM would never ever snitch heres why

Hes an old man now if he didnt snitch when he got that big 30 year sentence in the 70s when he was young and living the high life (can u imagine how much pussy and partying this guy did in the disco era)theres noway he would do it now that hes an old man and if he does have kids their probably in their 40+.Plus the fact he is one of those guys who spent alot of time in prison so its nothing for him.Guys like Massino and gravano did very little jail time so when the time came they knew they couldnt spend life in therer

Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: tiger84] #682161
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i see where you coming from and its a good point. honestly,i doubt hed flip. but some one who says that 'prison is probably nothing' has probably never done any serious time. i agree with you completely on the issue at hand [madonna] but honestly theres only so much a person can take. another twenty yrs could break your heart.especially after all the time hes done. or he could take it like a man with his 'chest out,head up'. like i say,i agree with you, 'just sayin'.lol.

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Have Madonna and dinapoli been sentenced yet or r they still free on bail ??

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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Have Madonna and dinapoli been sentenced yet or r they still free on bail ??


Last i heard they were still out on bail, they'll try stall it as long as they can so they can die in there beds lol

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Yeah that's wot I heard aswel , they have been out on bail now quite a while

Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: TommyGambino] #780863
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Have Madonna and dinapoli been sentenced yet or r they still free on bail ??


Last i heard they were still out on bail, they'll try stall it as long as they can so they can die in there beds lol

Correct, Tommy Boy lol.

And on a bit of a more serious note, at least two of the lower level bookmakers in the case just nixed another sweetheart plea deal. No time. Small forfeiture. But someone apparently "convinced" them to turn it down whistle .

It's really not fair to the street level guys in that case. But very little about the life is fair.


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Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
According to this article, found in the Utica Press Dec 22, 1976, Madonna imported his heroin from Bangkok, Thailand. At least that was what he was convicted of.

"Convicted Man Draws Maximum Term"

"A 41- year-old Bronx man
convicted with two others
of conspiring to smuggle 12
pounds of heroin from
Bangkok to New York, was
sentenced Tuesday to a
maximum term of 30 years
in prison and fined
$50 000.
In imposing the sentence
on Matthew Madonna,
Judge Robert L Carter
said it was the "hardest
sentence I have ever inflicted
and hope never to
have to impose again".
The sentence consisted
of 15 years each on two
counts to run consecutive
and a $25,000 fine on each
count and was the maximum
the court could have
imposed.
Salvatore Larca 32, also
of the Bronx who Judge
Carter characterized as a
"junior partner" in the
conspiracy, also received
two 15 year terms but to
run concurrently
The third man, Richard
Klinger 34 of Orange-
Calif, was sentenced to six
months in prison and
placed on probation for 18
months. The judge said
there was no evidence
Klinger had been involved
in a large scale operation."


Is that the same Sal Larca who is with the Genovese now? And was just arrested for pot distribution with Zoccolillo?

http://nypost.com/2013/05/03/from-reality-to-real-life-rat/

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That's his father, Flushing. 116th Street crew back then. He was VERY close to Barney at one time.


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Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: pizzaboy] #780867
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Re: Mathew Madonna [Re: pizzaboy] #780930
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Have Madonna and dinapoli been sentenced yet or r they still free on bail ??


Last i heard they were still out on bail, they'll try stall it as long as they can so they can die in there beds lol

Correct, Tommy Boy lol.

And on a bit of a more serious note, at least two of the lower level bookmakers in the case just nixed another sweetheart plea deal. No time. Small forfeiture. But someone apparently "convinced" them to turn it down whistle .

It's really not fair to the street level guys in that case. But very little about the life is fair.

It's not a global plea deal so why does it matter.


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him and Jackie nose have the same job at some soda distributor. wonder if there both still working. you own a bar or restaurant and these 2 role up your switching to them. they must drive all around NYC just signing people up won't take no for a answer. they must really work I bet not that it a hard job. you think that Marco polo restaurant in bk goes to them or wat ever company the persicos own.

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that's a good question who was the biggest vending machine guys in NYC. patriarca had new england to him self I read that boss in Milwaukee own it.

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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Have Madonna and dinapoli been sentenced yet or r they still free on bail ??


Last i heard they were still out on bail, they'll try stall it as long as they can so they can die in there beds lol

Correct, Tommy Boy lol.

And on a bit of a more serious note, at least two of the lower level bookmakers in the case just nixed another sweetheart plea deal. No time. Small forfeiture. But someone apparently "convinced" them to turn it down whistle .

It's really not fair to the street level guys in that case. But very little about the life is fair.

It's not a global plea deal so why does it matter.

It shouldn't matter, but the lower guys still can't plea. So you do the math. Someone's obviously paranoid wink .


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That company they work for Big Geyser gotta make some big bucks. They distribute a lot of top brand name products. They probably don't even have to lift a finger over there. That's what i call,
"Making money while your sleeping"


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Originally Posted By: pmac
him and Jackie nose have the same job at some soda distributor. wonder if there both still working. you own a bar or restaurant and these 2 role up your switching to them. they must drive all around NYC just signing people up won't take no for a answer. they must really work I bet not that it a hard job. you think that Marco polo restaurant in bk goes to them or wat ever company the persicos own.

I don't know about New England, pmac. But here in New York there aren't too many wiseguys still in the vending business. It was a HUGE moneymaker at one time, though. But between the FTC deregulating the business in New York City, and cigarette machines becoming illegal, things really changed.

Originally Posted By: pmac
that's a good question who was the biggest vending machine guys in NYC. patriarca had new england to him self I read that boss in Milwaukee own it.

Back in the '70s and '80s, Sally Bo DeSimone was the biggest vending guy in the Bronx, Western Queens and Northern Manhattan, by far. It wasn't even close in the Bronx.


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Mathew madonna was origanally from Pleasant ave its funny that he became made with the luchese instead of the genevese.His brother frank was the main guy in that family but i dont think he ever became a made guy there is no mention of him anywhere

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I still cant believe this jersey case from 2007 isnt resolved yet. Its absolutely unheard of. Unless the feds are working on some sort of federal indictment.

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Originally Posted By: tiger84
Mathew madonna was origanally from Pleasant ave its funny that he became made with the luchese instead of the genevese.

Not really, Tiger. I understand where you're coming from because they were overshadowed by the old Buckaloo Westside crew on 116th. But the Luccheses were VERY strong around 108th Street. And that's where Matty got off.


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Originally Posted By: Belmont
I still cant believe this jersey case from 2007 isnt resolved yet. Its absolutely unheard of. Unless the feds are working on some sort of federal indictment.

Those three guys are looking to live out their days through adjournments lol .

It's funny, but it's not fair to the younger guys who want to plea wink.


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[quote=Belmont]I still cant believe this jersey case from 2007 isnt resolved yet. Its absolutely unheard of. Unless the feds are working on some sort of federal indictment.

Those three guys are looking to live out their days through adjournments lol .

It's funny, but it's not fair to the younger guys who want to plea wink. [/quote


The books "Blue Domino" and "Pleasent Ave Connection" sum up that era. My question always was, Barnes bought from Madonna, where did Madonna get the smack?

Speaking of West 8th, Shakepreasrs still there? Great burgers!

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Originally Posted By: Longshoreman
My question always was, Barnes bought from Madonna, where did Madonna get the smack?

From a Jamaican lady named Flo. She looked a little like Willona from "Good Times," and I hear she was pretty good in the sack.


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[quote=Belmont]I still cant believe this jersey case from 2007 isnt resolved yet. Its absolutely unheard of. Unless the feds are working on some sort of federal indictment.

Those three guys are looking to live out their days through adjournments lol .

It's funny, but it's not fair to the younger guys who want to plea wink. [/quote


The books "Blue Domino" and "Pleasent Ave Connection" sum up that era. My question always was, Barnes bought from Madonna, where did Madonna get the smack?

Speaking of West 8th, Shakepreasrs still there? Great burgers!


At the time that he was selling to barnes i would guess that his brother bought from one of galantes guy he was bringing alot of h into the country.

Later on Matty had his own importation thing going by sending people to Thailand as mules and they would bring it over to NY.
He met Barnes in prison while serving time for murder he clipped someone in broad daylight and got 15 years.He apparently was a quiet guy guy but if you fucked with him he was deadly

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