Lol I appoligoze for my thread going a little rouge guys, I never planned for it to get highjacked by some Chicago jerkoff who clearly has no class whatsoever

Carmela I am sorry you were spoken to like that, it was crude and not warranted

Public Service Announcement - picking a fight with Carmela is like shooting spit balls at a battle ship! Good luck!

I told you so...

It's bad when you start talking to yourself on a message board.

It's bad when you start talking to yourself on a message board.

Good Morning Mark...

It seems that when we get a member from Chicago they can never stick around and inform, educate and assist. They seem to chest pound, exaggerate and boast about things that mostly aren't true thus leading to their demise. I wish YoTonyB would post more often. He seemed to have some pretty good knowledge about The Outfit but he doesn't come around that much any more.

The problem is there is nothing really to talk about. I think that's why ANP was so popular; Fosco would spill the beans on current and past issues X, Y and Z that people didn't know about before.

But for those of us who weren't literally born into a mob family, there's really nothing new to talk about and hasn't been for a long time.

So you're left with posting questions like "How many people do you think Tony Spilotro killed" or something like that, which isn't going to interest most people who have already read a bunch of books etc.

Micky "poopsicle" Mangano

He sccops cat shit for a living owns a vet over on the south side and a pizza parlor. He's a rising start and a major player some say hes the illegitimate kid of Milwaukee Phil.

Thanks! I'll stick around... it's nice to have a place to talk about Outfit stuff.

It's weird... Black Angelo, the Don and this most recent guy (to a lesser extent; some of his posts felt like BS, even about the historical stuff, and on the current state of the organization he couldn't have been more wrong) are extremely knowledgable on the Outfit, astounding, really, in their knowledge of the ins and outs of the history of the structure of the crews and stuff, but they all are also basically fans of the Outfit and (as we just saw) tend to vastly overstate its current power.

By the way, I don't really put the guy who was banned on the same level as the other two I mentioned from ANP. Though he clearly knew a lot, I think there was a fair amount of "bluffing" in his assertions regarding both past and present. But he did have enough context to give it a veneer of truth.

Thanks! I'll stick around... it's nice to have a place to talk about Outfit stuff.

It's weird... Black Angelo, the Don and this most recent guy (to a lesser extent; some of his posts felt like BS, even about the historical stuff, and on the current state of the organization he couldn't have been more wrong) are extremely knowledgable on the Outfit, astounding, really, in their knowledge of the ins and outs of the history of the structure of the crews and stuff, but they all are also basically fans of the Outfit and (as we just saw) tend to vastly overstate its current power.

By the way, I don't really put the guy who was banned on the same level as the other two I mentioned from ANP. Though he clearly knew a lot, I think there was a fair amount of "bluffing" in his assertions regarding both past and present. But he did have enough context to give it a veneer of truth.

It seems that when we get a member from Chicago they can never stick around and inform, educate and assist. They seem to chest pound, exaggerate and boast about things that mostly aren't true thus leading to their demise.

Are you talking about Chicago gangsters or Chicago politicians?

NoNos,

I still think there is a lot going on in Chinatown/Bridgeport. Do you ever get down there?

Hi. Yeah I am down there often. This is just a guess but I would guess that for the old rackets of bookmaking etc. that is the last neighborhood in Chicago where it is still going on, if its going on anywhere. That being said, if you read Family Secrets by Jeff Coen there are a few bits that would lead you to believe that some time in the late 90s or early 2000s they just closed up shop. There is one particular passage where it says that they had been extorting a well known business owner for years and finally just went to him and told him he could stop making payments, after decades.

The guy who got banned was talking about Grand Ave. There are only a handful of Italians left over there and just a handful of Italian businesses. I'm sure Lombardo and others own a lot of the property and there is a social club there and perhaps a card game in one of the many abandoned storefronts but the area is still largely run down.

Chinese are huge gamblers so is imagine there is gambling in Chinatown still but, again, without the threat of violence I'm not sure why some Chinese guy would kick up to DiFronzio etc. although I suppose it's possible the Outfit could still have enough clout to protect them/ pay off the cops, particularly in that neighborhood.