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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: NickyEyes1] #682504
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That article is twelve years old, Nicky. Interesting, though.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #682510
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I know I just thought you guys would want to read it

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #682667
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According to Frank Calabrese Jr. Jarrett got whistled in by Montelone for dealing drugs and other chicanery and ignored the order.

However, if Jarrett was dealing drugs, as strongly rumored, it's also possible people other than the Outfit knocked him down.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: jonnynonos] #682669
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Yeah jarret was working with members of the satans disciples street gang in distributing coke in the area and also i think trying to sell a few keys in michigan as well. I think that his shooter was described as a black guy too.

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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
I think that his shooter was described as a black guy too.


Yep.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #682716
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I don't see why he thought he would be capo for south side crew. He's not even Italian

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: NickyEyes1] #682720
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
I don't see why he thought he would be capo for south side crew. He's not even Italian


I think they got that part wrong. I never heard anyone else ever suggest that Jarrett was in line for anything. I do think he "took over" Calabrese Sr.'s crew while Calabrese Sr. was in prison but from what I remember all that meant was he was supposed to collect on loans etc.

I think he is actually half Italian, but I don't think he was ever in line to take over anything.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: jonnynonos] #682736
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Nich calabrese didnt mention his murder so it could be possible his murder was linked directly to the drug trade. Could be rivals of the satans disciples going straight after their supply.

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Jarrett was holding back on what he kicked up to Monteleone. Jarrett felt he didn't have to pay Apes the same as when LaPietra was in power. I am not sure but I believe Jarrett also blew off the first several meetings with Monteleone. That along with dealing drugs in Bridgeport area.

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Johnny "Apes" Monteleone was running things while Calabrese Sr. was away per the post above.

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Sounds about right. They used Jarrett's mother in law's garage in Bridgeport to kill all kinds of people, including several of the thieves who had robbed Accardo. Tied em up and slit their throats. Nasty ish.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: jonnynonos] #706218
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This is a real good fucking thread guys with a lot of new shit I was unaware of...would like to start it up again. Anyone have guesses on those who were made by Inendino and Sarno in the early 2000s?

I would assume Frank Caruso Jr. since he had just got out of prison at that point...also Chris Marcotte was made under Toots I believe.

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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
This is a real good fucking thread guys with a lot of new shit I was unaware of...would like to start it up again. Anyone have guesses on those who were made by Inendino and Sarno in the early 2000s?

I would assume Frank Caruso Jr. since he had just got out of prison at that point...also Chris Marcotte was made under Toots I believe.
I argued it someplace else in this thread I forgot where, but I think if they made anybody it's Nick Ferriola, he's been around and he has the pedigree

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I don't think they would have made a guy like Marcotte, he was with the SD's pumping alot of work here and in michagan, i not saying that thet didn't but if i had to bet i would say no, as far as Caruso Jr IDK he could very well be, the same goes for Ferriola, but i really don't THINK they would've made a guy like Marcotte. Just my 2 cents.

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I've always wondered what Frank Caruso Jr. looks like. Anyone have a photo of him?

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: jonnynonos] #706239
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Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
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I don't see why he thought he would be capo for south side crew. He's not even Italian


I think they got that part wrong. I never heard anyone else ever suggest that Jarrett was in line for anything. I do think he "took over" Calabrese Sr.'s crew while Calabrese Sr. was in prison but from what I remember all that meant was he was supposed to collect on loans etc.

I think he is actually half Italian, but I don't think he was ever in line to take over anything.


I believe he is half Italian. I thought I read somewhere that his nickname was "mezza" or something that was Italian for "half".

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http://mi-cache.legacy.com/legacy/images...pg_20120212.jpg

I,m not a 100% but from what i,ve seen this appers to be him.

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Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/legacy/images...pg_20120212.jpg

I,m not a 100% but from what i,ve seen this appers to be him.


Oh. Well he's a good looking guy if thats him.

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Oh well my bad i know i seen a photo before when he was going to court on the Lenorad Cleark case

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This is the photo of Caruso they used in the Family Secrets case but it's far from recent.




This is a later one. Still fairly old though. Caruso is on the right. Just click the link below.

http://af11.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/20090901_inq_jmob01z-b.jpg?w=510


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Could be wrong Ivy, but I think the Frank Caruso Jr. they're talking about might be the son of the guy whose pic you posted.

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Originally Posted By: Ivan
Could be wrong Ivy, but I think the Frank Caruso Jr. they're talking about might be the son of the guy whose pic you posted.


The guy above is Frank Caruso Jr. Nicknamed "Toots." His father was Frank "Skids" Caruso. I have no idea if Toots has a son by the same name, but if he did, the kid would be Frank Caruso III.


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Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
I don't think they would have made a guy like Marcotte, he was with the SD's pumping alot of work here and in michagan, i not saying that thet didn't but if i had to bet i would say no, as far as Caruso Jr IDK he could very well be, the same goes for Ferriola, but i really don't THINK they would've made a guy like Marcotte. Just my 2 cents.



ferriola is gonna end up one of the bosses

he ate his pinch and didn't rat

plus he's been groomed by heavy hitters his entire life and he's still young

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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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Could be wrong Ivy, but I think the Frank Caruso Jr. they're talking about might be the son of the guy whose pic you posted.


The guy above is Frank Caruso Jr. Nicknamed "Toots." His father was Frank "Skids" Caruso. I have no idea if Toots has a son by the same name, but if he did, the kid would be Frank Caruso III.


He certainly did have a son. He beat the shit out of Leonard Clark in the mid 90s and went to prison. It was a major deal in Chicago...civil rights issue. Witnesses were murdered or skipped town and the Judge was threatened. Frank Sr. was forced to step out of the shadows and the entire thing put a lot of heat on the Caruso family and Bridgeport. Frank Jr. still went to prison. Main reason why the entire Caruso/Bertucci clan moved to Darien.

He's out now and recently married the daughter of Casey S. who owns video gaming machine companies used by the 26th Street and Cicero Crews.

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I don't think they would have made a guy like Marcotte, he was with the SD's pumping alot of work here and in michagan, i not saying that thet didn't but if i had to bet i would say no, as far as Caruso Jr IDK he could very well be, the same goes for Ferriola, but i really don't THINK they would've made a guy like Marcotte. Just my 2 cents.



ferriola is gonna end up one of the bosses

he ate his pinch and didn't rat

plus he's been groomed by heavy hitters his entire life and he's still young


Nick is usually found with Marco D'Amico now when not with his family and probably running another book. I believe his link to Chinatown died with Calabrese.

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Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
I don't think they would have made a guy like Marcotte, he was with the SD's pumping alot of work here and in michagan, i not saying that thet didn't but if i had to bet i would say no, as far as Caruso Jr IDK he could very well be, the same goes for Ferriola, but i really don't THINK they would've made a guy like Marcotte. Just my 2 cents.


True he did have that drug bust some years ago...but he was working for Ronnie Jarrett at the time...so don't think that would keep him off the list. Just more evidence that the Outfit isn't above supplying street gangs with narcotics.

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I don't think they would have made a guy like Marcotte, he was with the SD's pumping alot of work here and in michagan, i not saying that thet didn't but if i had to bet i would say no, as far as Caruso Jr IDK he could very well be, the same goes for Ferriola, but i really don't THINK they would've made a guy like Marcotte. Just my 2 cents.



ferriola is gonna end up one of the bosses

he ate his pinch and didn't rat

plus he's been groomed by heavy hitters his entire life and he's still young


Nick is usually found with Marco D'Amico now when not with his family and probably running another book. I believe his link to Chinatown died with Calabrese.



that sounds like a promotion if u ask me

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So is ferriola with elmwood or cicero?

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
So is ferriola with elmwood or cicero?


He was actually named as an associate of the South Side/26th Street crew in the Family Secrets case.


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