This is just disgusting, and it makes me sick to see a lot of bright futures taken away in seconds. Things have to change in this country. Either by forcing every state to have strict laws/mental tests on those who want to buy and own a handgun. The government needs to make the NRA lose more power for anything to change. Also, make it so that every school is protected.

Honestly things need to change, since July there has been like 5 mass shootings in public places.

Columbine, Aurora, Virginia Tech, the Amish school, How many more do we need to lose? The other day, there was just a shooting in an Oregon mall, and it barely got a mention on the news. Have we become so desensitized to these massacres?

Just saw the video of Ryan Lanza being taken into custody in Hoboken. Despite being handcuffed, an officer had his arm around and he looked more like a victim than another suspect.

So sad that there are people in this country that want to do tragic acts like this. You all know that I am a firm believer in 2nd amendment rights, that being said I don't know what is needed to prevent this from happening again. If a POS wants to do harm they are going to do it. People can make bombs out of household chemicals. Stricter gun laws will not stop this.

What kind of demons must be in your head to want to do this to your mother and 5 year old kids?

i'm guessing this person was probably on some kind of anti-depressant/anti-anxiety medication. i'm not looking to make any sort of excuses, but it seems that when people who are crazy to begin with are put on these kinds of meds, the results can be terrible. just one of the many things that needs to be looked at.

Mig,

How do you feel about enforcing background checks on everyone buys a gun? Wouldn't that be a logical "check"?


TIS

How do we know until we try. As TIS said earlier, a huge percentage of guns can be purchased with no waiting period, no background check. Why? Who needs a gun so desperately that they can't wait a few days? If you can't wait, then you're probably up to no good.

I don't want to stop anyone from hunting or protecting themselves, but enough is enough. Obviously, this system isn't working. We need change, and we need it now. Gun-control chatter starts up after something like this, and then shuts down afterwards.

This is true. Those who follow the laws are being punished because of these POS who got there gun's from illegal means. You can't ban every gun like over in england after there tragedy in a elementary school. But, you can't give more guns out to protect our selfs. There has to be a middle ground, and what ever it is we may never really stop these tragedies.

SB,

I don't think any of us who want stricter gun laws/background checks want to stop anybody from owning a gun. It's the NRAs spin that people buy into. My immediate family weren't hunters but many of my extended family are. However, making someone "qualify" to own a gun is not out of line IMHO.

That being said, gun-clingers need not get "up in arms", I don't think anything will be done, even after this horrible tragedy.

TIS

as far as backround checks are concerned, there seems to be alot of misinformation. in all 50 states, when you go into a gun store an fbi backround check is mandatory, in all 50 states, look it up. as far as private gun sales, i'm not sure how it is everywhere but backround checks are not required for the most part as far as i know. with that said, its a felony to sell a gun to a felon knowingly, but thats a slippery slope.

as a gun owner myself, i would certainly not be opposed to backround checks as far as private gun sales are concerned. could be as simple as having both parties go to a gun store and have it done and then documented right there.

The news just said today that 40 percent of gun sales are NOT background checked. Gun shows are known for not doing background checks.




TIS

What a fucking coward
Wish I could kill that piece of shit myself

alot of spin, no matter which side you are on. as far as gun shows, rules differ alot by state, but for the most part, private sellers at the gun shows are not always required to do backround checks, but have to take down the sellers info, although the laws are changing. another misconception is gun shows are just all private sales when in reality alot of the bigger firearms manufactures/distributers have a heavy pressense and do submit backround checks.

They are now reporting that 20 children are dead.

They said this shooting was the 2nd worse of it's kind in the U.S. Was Columbine the first I assume???

THIS one is extra-heart-wrenching because the victims are little kids.




TIS

No. Va. Tech. is number #1.

Oh yea, I was trying to think back. I knew I was forgetting one.

Btw, MSNBC is saying the shooter killed himself. If they reported that, I missed it (must have been on the phone).
I assumed the police shot him.


TIS

This is so utterly sickening of a story.

I could not wait to get home and hug my little ones.

This a real good site that explains the application of federal gun purchase law, its process, backgroound checks, prohibitions, acquisition of multiple firearms, and alot more in easy to understand language.

http://us.gizmodo.com/5928889/buying-a-t...shockingly-easy

A shocking tragedy. RIP

Well, it sure sounds like it's pretty easy.



TIS

its important to note, that you still have to follow the firearms laws/restrictions of your state.

CNN just said that in the past decade, that city (I think population was about 27,000) has only had 1 murder.


TIS

here is a link to the current gun laws in conneticut for anybody interested...


http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/p/gunlaws_ct.htm

I don't care if it makes it more difficult or takes you longer to get that killing machine in your hands. There are too many dead, children, babies. Columbine, Virginia Tech, Gaby Gifford and all of those at her rally, and now this. I don't care if you're inconvenienced. Who cares? Why would it bother you if it makes it a little harder to purchase a lethal weapon? It should be harder. It should be damned difficult.

I am so tired of seeing these memorial services on the news. The candlelight vigils, the teddy bears and cards left behind. It's unprecedented. This is where your children should be safe, and they're being slaughtered.

I cannot imagine the anguish that these parents are feeling. You kiss your child goodbye, a bus drives them away and you never, ever see them alive again. No, it's too much to bear. And if you have to wait three days before you can buy a hunting rifle, then tough.

Go and stand at the graves of these babies and tell their parents that the gun laws in this country are just okie-dokie, honky dory.

God Bless the children and their families!

Knifes next?

Maybe the real problem is metal illness!


22 children, 1 adult injured in knife attack outside central China primary school
By Associated Press, Updated: Friday, December 14, 3:17 AM
BEIJING — A knife-wielding man injured 22 children and one adult outside a primary school in central China as students were arriving for classes Friday, police said, the latest in a series of periodic rampage attacks at Chinese schools and kindergartens.

The attack in the Henan province village of Chengping happened shortly before 8 a.m., said a police officer from Guangshan county, where the village is located.

The attacker, 36-year-old villager Min Yingjun, is now in police custody, said the officer, who declined to give her name, as is customary among Chinese civil servants.

A Guangshan county hospital administrator said the man first attacked an elderly woman, then students, before being subdued by security guards who have been posted across China following a spate of school attacks in recent years. He said there were no deaths among the nine students admitted, although two badly injured children had been transferred to better-equipped hospitals outside the county.

A doctor at Guangshan’s hospital of traditional Chinese medicine said that seven students had been admitted, but that none were seriously injured.

Neither the hospital administrator nor the doctor would give his name.

It was not clear how old the injured children were, but Chinese primary school pupils are generally 6-11 years old.

A notice posted on the Guangshan county government’s website confirmed the number of injured and said an emergency response team had been set up to investigate the attacks.

No motive was given for the stabbings, which echo a string of similar assaults against schoolchildren in 2010 that killed nearly 20 and wounded more than 50. The most recent such attack took place in August, when a knife-wielding man broke into a middle school in the southern city of Nanchang and stabbed two students before fleeing.

Most of the attackers have been mentally disturbed men involved in personal disputes or unable to adjust to the rapid pace of social change in China, underscoring grave weaknesses in the antiquated Chinese medical system’s ability to diagnose and treat psychiatric illness.

In one of the worst incidents, a man described as an unemployed, middle-aged doctor killed eight children with a knife in March 2010 to vent his anger over a thwarted romantic relationship.

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I agree background checks should be done. A more in depth one. But what if someone breaks into your house and steals weapons and uses them in a crime?