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Re: NFL 2012.......
[Re: klydon1]
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12/13/12 11:44 AM
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Although tagliabue adopted the findings of the commissioner, his exoneration of the players in the Bountygate matter was a swift kick in the ass to "Wrong Again" Roger Goodell. Amen, Counselor  .
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Re: NFL 2012.......
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^^^^ Wasn't easy, Counselor  .
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Re: NFL 2012.......
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^^^^ Wasn't easy, Counselor  . I hear ya. I woke up Sunday morning from a dream where the Cowboys had beaten the Steelers on an interceeption by someone named Terrance. i had a bad feeling about it all day.
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Re: NFL 2012.......
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I also think the Rex Ryan Era is coming to a crashing halt. Yeah. I'm in the minority, but I think Rex might go. His players love him, but the other teams just get too riled up to play the guy because of his big mouth. And it runs in his family: They're great defensive coordinators, but lousy head coaches.
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Re: NFL 2012.......
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12/18/12 12:54 PM
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You know, the Jets debacle with Tebow et al makes me wonder about the expertise that we accrue to NFL coaches. How good was Sanchez; could another team have turned him into a consistently productive QB? You make a good point, Oli. Because you know as well as I do that once a young quarterback is "ruined," he'll hardly ever redeem himself with a different team. It's the NFL version of shell shock. So when this kid is 50 years old and looking back, he has to ask himself "what if" he had a different head coach out of the gate. He'll also have to ask himself "what if" he listened to Pete Carroll and stayed at USC for his final year  .
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Re: NFL 2012.......
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You know Kly, despite my decades of watching NFL football, the Tebow debacle has really struck a nerve with me. I know that he is criticized because of his mechanics and all, but the waste of whatever talent he had is really a sin. We think that these coaches and GMs are geniuses, but this proves that they are not. I couldn't agree more, Oli. They traded for Tebow to steal headlines from the Giants who had just won their second Super Bowl in five years, which was a very selfish motive. This kid Tebow may never become a big league quarterback, but he deserves better treatment than he got from the Jets. That's why their organization is as big a joke today as it's been for the past forty years.
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Re: NFL 2012.......
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You know Kly, despite my decades of watching NFL football, the Tebow debacle has really struck a nerve with me. I know that he is criticized because of his mechanics and all, but the waste of whatever talent he had is really a sin. We think that these coaches and GMs are geniuses, but this proves that they are not. I couldn't agree more, Oli. They traded for Tebow to steal headlines from the Giants who had just won their second Super Bowl in five years, which was a very selfish motive. This kid Tebow may never become a big league quarterback, but he deserves better treatment than he got from the Jets. That's why their organization is as big a joke today as it's been for the past forty years. I just can't understand why so many teams refuse to follow the success model that has been established by the Steelers, Patriots, and Giants. Those teams would never have done what the Jets did regarding Tebow.
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Re: NFL 2012.......
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12/20/12 04:40 PM
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The essential elements of building success are stability and consistency. Mike Greenberg must have heard you say this.  The other morning they were adding up the number of coaches the Jets have had. I don't remember the number, but they seem to change every 2-4 years. While Pittsburgh had 3 coaches since 1970; Noll, Cowher and Tomlin. (Is that right?) Jets-Mets similar; Yanks-Giants, similar.
Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
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Re: NFL 2012.......
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The essential elements of building success are stability and consistency. Mike Greenberg must have heard you say this.  The other morning they were adding up the number of coaches the Jets have had. I don't remember the number, but they seem to change every 2-4 years. While Pittsburgh had 3 coaches since 1970; Noll, Cowher and Tomlin. (Is that right?) Jets-Mets similar; Yanks-Giants, similar. Noll coached the Steelers from 1969-1991; Cowher coached from 1992-2006; and Tomlin is coaching since 2007. There's a common link in the Rooneys' selection of coaches: Noll was a disciple of Shula, Cowher was a disciple of Shottenheimer, who was a disciple of Noll, and Tomlin was a disciple of Dungy, who was also a disciple of Noll. All three were in their mid to late 30s when they were hired because the expectation was that they would be around quite a while, and all three were innovative and aggressive coordinators. And what I appreciate the most is that each has won at least one Super Bowl.
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